where do I get 20% vinegar?

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by rb_in_va, May 30, 2007.

  1. HayBay

    HayBay LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 846

    Avenger Weed Killer


    Have you heard of the IARC?

    5.5 Evaluation
    There is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of d-limonene.
    There is sufficient evidence in experimental animals for the carcinogenicity of
    d-limonene.
    Overall evaluation
    In making its overall evaluation of the carcinogenicity to humans of d-limonene, the
    Working Group concluded that d-limonene produces renal tubular tumours in male rats
    by a non-DNA-reactive mechanism, through an α2u-globulin-associated response. Therefore,
    the mechanism by which d-limonene increases the incidence of renal tubular
    tumours in male rats is not relevant to humans.
    d-Limonene is not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans (Group 3).

    http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol73/mono73-16.pdf

    So, it causes cancer in Rats but its unsure if it causes cancer in humans, Hummmm.... Lets register it as ORGANIC on the OMRI.
    Let all the activist fearmongerers know this and that product will be another failure.

    ***SOUNDS LIKE ITS NO SAFER THAN ANY OTHER PESTICIDE*****
     
  2. JWTurfguy

    JWTurfguy LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 327

    So if we're worried about d-limonene, should we stop using citrus degreasers? Maybe we should stop eating oranges?

    The comment about Avenger Weed Killer being safer than vinegar-based organic herbicides is true. The fact is that horticultural vinegar can present a very real and immediate threat to the applicator, especially if it were to get into the eyes. I don't think I'd want d-limonene in my eyes either, but to say that one is "safer" than the other does not imply that there are zero risks. I'm sure that there is a place for vinegar in an organic lawn program, but the post was for the benefit of reasonable people who might appreciate knowing that other options are available.
     
  3. HayBay

    HayBay LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 846

    my comment was directed at the OMRI reference.

    If a person feels that ORGANIC FOOD is safer, they surely don't want a pesticide product applied to their food crop that causes cancer in rats.

    I do agree with you that the act of applying Vinegar is dangerous. On your skin, eyes or even breathing it in.

    The Organic Activists want you to stop eating oranges, unless they are organic oranges. See where I am going with this.
     
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