Where to find a GOOD 185?

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by Currier, Nov 16, 2003.

  1. Currier

    Currier LawnSite Senior Member
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    Anybody have any leads on where to find a good 185 cfm compressor (used) for a good price? Seems around here we are looking at around $7500.00. I am more geared towards the 4000-5000 range.

    Currently I am using a 140 cfm for blowouts but it is dying out and the time is coming for a bigger and better machine. I have checked equip. trader and ebay but don't see much listed.

    Any of you know of some decent machines at a fair price?
     
  2. greenworldh20

    greenworldh20 LawnSite Senior Member
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    $4k is a nice deposit on a new machine...take the payments. interest rates are still good. new machine is guaranteed to run problem free for five years.

    here is the best advice i will give anyone...

    NEW IS CHEAPER.

    'nuff said.

    brian
     
  3. turfman59

    turfman59 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I would rent the thing. Why buy when you can rent. especially when you only use it once a year. If you cant charge the thing back to the customer, then you shouldnt be buying one either.
     
  4. greenworldh20

    greenworldh20 LawnSite Senior Member
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    bruce,

    the compressor is guaranteed to pay itself off in less than 2 seasons.

    do you know what is costs to rent a compressor for a month? 2001 was the last season i rented a compressor. i was paid $1100/month for the compressor. i bought a compressor and the convience is the greatest thing. we also have had it painted and lettered to match our vehicles.

    purchase it...invest in your business. for what we use them for, it will last forever.

    'nuff said.

    brian:laugh:
     
  5. DanaMac

    DanaMac LawnSite Fanatic
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    This seems to be a dilemna in our biz. the 185 compressor AND 150' of hose was $950 for the month. That includes all taxes, damage waiver fees, etc. If buying, you need to figure in your cost for sales tax on the purchase, insurance on the equip that will be used 4-5 weeks of the year, purchase of hose and fittings, registration fees and yearly renewal, oil changes and filters, maintenance, flat tires and replacements, down time when it breaks during the 4 -5 week period of winterizing (I had to return the two original ones I got due to problems - rental comp. switched them out immediately), do you have room to store it, will you have to pay to store it, and others items I can't think of right now.

    If you can find a good priceon a good clean running piece, still think about it. But if you are going to spend $4-5K on a used POS, plus all the above mentioned items, don't bother.

    The 100 cfm machine we got was $818 for the month, with hoses, taxes, fees, etc
     
  6. turfman59

    turfman59 LawnSite Senior Member
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    well I am glad too see how you figure it paid for itself in two seasons. 7000.00 compressor is now paid for but you didnt take a pay day for 2 years, I am not going to work for free or for a piece of equipment. $ 1,100.00 doesnt sound all that bad. If your doing Blow outs at 30 a day like you say you do on other post's I ve read of yours. thats like 1200.00 a day or 6000.00 a week or 24,000 a month. With that said why are you balking at a 1,100 rental fee per month............

    You just arent consistent on your advice,,,,,,,

    kind of like ending your post with the end-all...." nuff said".
    it comes across as an all authorative ending to someone elses post. Maybe a reality check is in need.....:gunsfirin
     
  7. turfman59

    turfman59 LawnSite Senior Member
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    QUOTE""i agree with ya, dana...rent a compressor and do it the right way!!!

    or, like my dad said...

    'when in doubt, sub it out.'



    i like a challenge, so i would do it myself."

    brian


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    Like you said Rent one and do it the right way !!


    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  8. Currier

    Currier LawnSite Senior Member
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    My best was 16 a day this year. I've been doing blowouts for 4 years and have all the fittings and routines for maximum efficiency.

    My take on it is I'd rather own the machine than give 1100.00 to the rental companies every year. Around here there are NO machines to be rented during the season. If your rented machine broke down you would simply be screwed. There are no replacements available (I know, I called to rent one when my machine broke down)

    Equipment trader now has several units listed. I think I'll keep a tab on things once the next season fires up...
     
  9. Rotor-Man

    Rotor-Man LawnSite Member
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    After years of renting, I bought a 2yr. old 125 cfm towable with 95 hrs. on it this past spring. I love it and the flexibilty of using it for the "stray call-ins " that always happen when it gets really cold here and people want it done! This was not possible before with a rental machine, as the cost made it not profitable to do and in the process turned away a potential customer for the following season.
    In Michigan no registration is required on towable compressors, so there is no cost for plates and such. Sales tax is just part of doing business wherever you are located, and is a one-time expense. The compressor can be fully depreciated in 1 year now with the new tax laws, which is a good deal also. The maintenance on the compressor should be minimal if taken care of properly, and as far storage the size is not that big a deal in my shop. Lastly my payback will be after 2 years, and winterizations are one of my best profit makers for the entire year.
    Turfman 59, you need to cool the "Rhetoric" and take all comments with a grain of salt , will make your life less stressful and more enjoyable in the process.
     
  10. turfman59

    turfman59 LawnSite Senior Member
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    For stray call ins if residential I would sub it out or use my trusty portable compressor, Thanks for the advice on stress reduction, after 26 years of managing millions of dollars worth of perishables, and then running a small industrial town, as mayor I guess I have developed a bit of synicism for people that talk out the sides of there mouths. But that is how I enjoy it:D
     

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