Which 32 inch self-propelled for start-up

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by Inndesign, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. Inndesign

    Inndesign LawnSite Member
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    I am examining this industry, whereas I have had a passion for lawn care for years and currently use Lawn-Boy self-propelled to service a very small client base.

    I wish to replace my current Lawn-Boy with a 32 inch, ideally due to the curves. 25 degree inclines and unlevel nature of my area. Four strokes are challenged over 15 degrees, therefore do require overhead oil pump on cam. Wide decks are not at all favorable and most clients refuse such contractors. 21 inch is not nearly enough, but 32 inch would suffice to step up.

    I have spent hours studying every manufacturer I can review. The eXmark Metro 32" is nice, but many say to go with the Hydro, but then that exceeds 36". The Bradley RedHawk 32" with the 15 HP Kohler Engine is another option. 32'' Sarlo is probably like the Redhawk, only different paint? Then there is the 34" Ariens Wide Area Walk 1034 that seems to be very popular, the one I am currently leaning in favor of. LISTED HERE.

    The factors I am restrained by is the client base. Some wants bagging, some wants mulching. Therefore the mower needs to adjust for both options IF possible. Would like to have Sulky option, but not maybe favorable in some client lawns due to ravines and other ground based obstacles. I hope I can get some professional feedback from those who are veteran to this industry, whereas I am not such a person. Thank You!
     
  2. lawnboy dan

    lawnboy dan LawnSite Gold Member
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    toro t bar is my pic. you dont want a single hydro in a wb as you have to muscle it tru turns. floating deck follows conturs of turf quite well. i ahve run t bar for 15 yrs and love it-ultra reliable and great cut and mulching. does well on slopes too.sulky -no prob. go demo one -then compare the rest-you will see its eaisly the best
     
  3. Inndesign

    Inndesign LawnSite Member
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    Thanks much Lawnboy Dan. I assume you are making reference to the Toro 30692 15 HP Kawasaki V-Twin engine with 32" deck found HERE? Is your comments implying you are more in favor of the gear over the hydro? I understand the hydro is the choice because the are faster, no belts to wear out or slipping in wet conditions? One user told me to "Spend the extra money now and get the hydro, you will be a lot better off down the road." Well, the problem is all the new Toro Walk-Behinds don't have a hydro with less than a 36" deck. Fixed Deck Gear Drive is only option with 32" deck T-Bar. Plus the price tag is $3,000! I was hoping to ease in economically at first. Get a feel for it before I dropped the big bucks.

    Hoping to get some feedback on the 34" Ariens Wide Area Walk. They are $1,300 new and in my price range. The Ferris Hydro Cut in the 32" seems to be a serious machine found HERE for around $2,000. Never-the-less, I am very grateful for any comments regardless of the cost.
     
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  4. Inndesign

    Inndesign LawnSite Member
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    I forgot to mention the 2009 Cub Cadet CC-760ES 33" for $1,300 found HERE. Albeit, this model does not allow a sulky, but not a big deal, because exercise is good. With so many manufactures and limited experience, I will have to resort to a professionals opinion for lack of knowledge. Thanks for suffering through my exorbitant posts!
     
  5. W.L.M.

    W.L.M. LawnSite Senior Member
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    Wright makes a 32 hydro walk behind which is probaly your best bet for a hardcore commercial 32in. If you are dealing with slopes like you say a belt drive or single hydro isn't going to be any good and darn near impossible to operate on.
     
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  6. Jay Ray

    Jay Ray LawnSite Fanatic
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    It is a pretty fair chore to change the Exmark Metro or the Toro 32 with the same Exmark deck from mulch to bagging and vice versa. A Jungle Jack helps by making the lift quick and secure.
     
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  7. Inndesign

    Inndesign LawnSite Member
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    I see what you mean W.L.M, the Wright Velke is a beast HERE! It looks like heavy duty Caterpillar equipment with that paint job :) And it is seriously more compact than the Toro, RedHawk, or Sarlo and their truck bed length platforms. If you are packing multiple machines on a trailer, I could see this design being a real asset. But then we are talking $4,500 for a WVP3215KAW 32" 15 HP Kawasaki Recoil start walk-behind! This is certainly a high-jump regarding costs when wanting to test the industry with a $1,500 budget :p I will set my sights on Wright when I am certain of my goal, but for now, I have to think economical and entry-level as a test.
     
  8. DT Lawn Care

    DT Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Wow, that was out of left field!?!? Just get or make a easy put on/take off mulch plate for it and a side bag. If you use Gator blades on it, it should do you well for both mulching and bagging. I like my Metro, it doesn't slip on hills, unless it's wet (of course).

    You really can't be looking at a hydro unit for under $1500, unless you're going to buy a used one.

    Don't want to question you, but really whats up with not wanting a 36"? It's only 4" more, and they are WAY more common and cheaper. Not to mention how many more models you can consider.

    BTW, hydros DO use belts. There is a belt that runs underneath from the engine to the hydros.

    GL
     
  9. MesaLawn

    MesaLawn LawnSite Member
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    Surprised nobody has mentioned Better Outdoor Products :)

    I'm a homeowner 1 acre lot, went from a 21" lawnboy to the Quick 36" Ninja. I'm pretty happy with it. Lots of posts on it, do a search. Mine's a single hydro, which does take effort on slopes, but cheaper than the dually.
     
  10. frotis

    frotis LawnSite Senior Member
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    A dealer near me has Exmark 36" Metro's with ECS for $2895 is that a good price?
     

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