Which is better?

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by TheHotShotKid, Apr 4, 2006.

  1. TheHotShotKid

    TheHotShotKid LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 169

    A manufacturer who has a product line that consists of 5,000 fixtures or one that carries 10 different styles?
     
  2. DarkLotus

    DarkLotus LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 82

    If you have 5000 fixtures of unreliable quality or 10 that will work, I'll put my money on the 10. Call backs are a waste of time and money.
     
  3. Flow Control

    Flow Control LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,267

    Give me a company that makes the best transformer and even one other product such as an affordable accent light that does not fade over the years and the socket does not go south. Which is a problem I am seeing more and more with the Vista line. Back to my point, give me a company that makes the best transformer and best accent light that is not double the cost of competitors and they would have a customer for life.
     
  4. DarkLotus

    DarkLotus LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 82

    One answer, Cast-Lighting!
     
  5. Jacob's Yardworks LLC

    Jacob's Yardworks LLC LawnSite Member
    Posts: 113

    Good answer!
     
  6. desert night light

    desert night light LawnSite Member
    from AZ
    Posts: 215

    Nightscaping is still #1
     
  7. Flow Control

    Flow Control LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,267

    $65 per accent light is great if you can charge over $200 but lights don't move around here unless they are in the 150 range give or take 10pts. And the dealer in this area is basically the worst possible place they could have choosen. It's a place similar to a hardware store, you can buy stuff for your tractor or sprinkler. I have no idea why they did not seek a place that was more in the green industry loop.
     
  8. desert night light

    desert night light LawnSite Member
    from AZ
    Posts: 215

    If your paying 65 and moving them for 150 that's a good profit...no?
     
  9. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,206

    Add in wire, transformer, labor, insurance, truck payment, etc, etc. $150 won't cover the cost.
     
  10. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,181

    I agree unless your billing out each component as a seperate charge your bottom lines not where it should be. Anyone notice the cost of wire latley?

    take a typical install and figure out your total cost. fixtures... bulbs...spicing supplies... trans.. automation stuff... wire etc then add in your labor costs and fixed overhead.

    I may not be as experienced as some in this particular area but this pertains to any business. You cant just say I made XX over cost of the supplies and figure your income on your gross profit.. Its what you have in the bank after all the expenses are paid that matters.

    Controling my overhead has been the single most important factor of being profitable for me. Everyone definatly needs to sit down and figure out ALL thier costs... fuel.. insurance workmans comp if applicable trucks tooling equipment etc. Cost of advertising and everything subtracts from your bottom line... If your selling a 200 buck fixture at 150 and doing a 20 light job thats like 1000 off your bottom line..I just dont see it being profitable enough to stay in business.
     

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