Which Z do I buy?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by ccorts, May 13, 2002.

  1. ccorts

    ccorts LawnSite Member
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    I have been researching the Lazer Z, the Ferris, Chopper and Torro and am very confused. All machines seem to have their place as commercial mowers, but can anyone tell me about what is the best value for the buck! I'm only cutting 5-7 acres a week, but want dependability and low maintanence in a machine that will last as long as I do. (50 yrs old) Can you give me your opinion on a 48-52" deck--18-23 hp range machine. Thanks for any input, advice or suggestion on any machine.
     
  2. HOWARD JONES

    HOWARD JONES LawnSite Member
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    Here's a little advice, based on your emphasis towards low maintenance: I would look at the spindle design first. I own a 60" Toro and am pleased with the machine but it has greasable spindles - it takes about one pump per hour of use - I usually grease, clean, and sharpen blades every ten hours (I also am mowing 5 acres and am 50 yrs old). The Exmark is almost identical to Toro chassis (Toro now owns Exmark) but has a different deck with sealed bearings - never grease. I was skeptical of this, but the posts on this site indicate they hold up very well. I believe Dixie uses greasable spindles, don't know about Ferris.
     
  3. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
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    the lazer w 52 deck an 20 kohler,is a real good value.
     
  4. farmguy

    farmguy LawnSite Member
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    I bought an Exmark 52" with 20hp Kohler this year. I mow about 10 acres of yards and equipment lot. I've got about 35 hours on it currently and it seems odd how little maintenance I have to do. I'm getting used to it though.:cool:

    The real question comes down to dealer service.
     
  5. lahanko

    lahanko LawnSite Member
    from NY
    Posts: 173

    We bought the Toro Z-Master 150 about three weeks ago, love it.
    52 inch deck 20hp Kohler.
    We use it on about 3 acres and the horse pastures.
     
  6. Shultz

    Shultz LawnSite Member
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  7. HOWARD JONES

    HOWARD JONES LawnSite Member
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    Well, Shultz, maybe greasing every ten hours is excessive - but Toro says to do it every 5 hours until grease comes out. I remember searching on the subject and Eric Elm greased every 15 hrs with about 15 pumps. (He said he had 4000 hours on some spindles) It requires the amount of grease I described to see any coming out. Some say that you don't need to grease until it comes out, though. Most commercial cutters sharpen every day - I'm not out of line there, either. The blades need the sharpening - I mow over sticks, etc and are dull after 10 hours. From my experience, the blades always wear out on the trailing edge first; "extra" sharpening does not shorten the blade life because that is not the edge that wears out first.
     
  8. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
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    thats one thing i noted about the toro .
    the dealer thinks its the best spindle out there ,but says u got to grease it dailey. they got one opened up on the counter and its heavy duty spindle.
     
  9. scottb

    scottb LawnSite Senior Member
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    With either the lazer Z or the Toro Z you cant go wrong.
     
  10. HOWARD JONES

    HOWARD JONES LawnSite Member
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    Don't forget the dealer network - I bought one of the most common brands (Toro) partly because there are lots of dealers - it paid off immediately because the dealers were not all at the same price - one was $1500 too high!
     

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