Which ZTR for under $10K for 4 Acre Homeowner

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by Olympus, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. Olympus

    Olympus LawnSite Member
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    Right now,my top contenders are the Bad Boy Outlaw XP and the Hustler Super Z. I'll run by over lunch and check out the Ferris 2000z/2100z. I think a 72" deck might be out of the running. My trailer is not wide enough and I really don't want to have to upgrade trailers too.

    The Outlaw XP is $8600 for the 36hp Vanguard or $8900 for the Kawasaki. The dealer is going to let me demo an XP next week.

    The Super Z is $10,000 and I'd really have to love it to spend over my budget. I may look more closely at the X - One model.
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  2. JCLawn and more

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    If you have the choice go vanguard. Kawi has had a lot of issues with that engine.
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  3. Olympus

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    Don't know who was talking about the Ferris 2000z being 1500lbs, but I just picked up a book and the new 2100z is 1295lbs for the 61" model.
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  4. whiffyspark

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    Weight doesn't really mean anything.
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  5. Olympus

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    I went by the Ferris dealer and looked at the 2000z. The only one they had left was a 54" deck. The suspension was awesome,but nothing else about the mower stood out to me. The dealer priced several engines for the 2100Z model. 25hp Kawasaki was $9700, 26hp Vanguard $9000, and 32hp Vanguard $10,000.

    The biggest negative for me is that the 2100Z uses transaxles and not pump and wheel motors like the Hustler and Bad Boy. You have to move up to the 3100z to get pump and wheel motors.
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  6. Olympus

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    I also went back to the Hustler dealer to look at the X-Ones. A new X-One is $9000. They also have two really tempting mowers. One is a demo Super Z with only 6 hours that they use to mow their dealership. They knocked $1000 off the price and said they'd still give the full warranty on it. So $9000 for a demo Super Z with only 6 hours and full warranty.

    The next mower they had was a used Z Diesel with only 100 hours. 72" deck with optional flex fork casters on the front. It looks brand new. They said the owner picked up a cemetery contact and the mower was too big to get between the headstones. They want $10,000, but I'm pretty sure I can get them to come down. That's normally a $13k mower.
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  7. JCLawn and more

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    There is nothing wrong with transaxels. They are more reliable and less maintenance. Even my kubota has a transaxel, but that is a transaxel on steroids haha. The 5400 is the way to go but the 3100 is good too. I've had the 2400 and I work on someone's mower who has the 2400. They are very smooth hydro systems.
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  8. pete326

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    That was me. I got the info from the spec sheet on the Ferris website. Later, I went back and checked the weight for some of Ferris' more expensive models are noticed that those other machines weighed quite a bit less than 1500 pounds. I'll have to assume the weight shown the spec sheet for the 2000z was incorrect. Nevertheless, it is still a very substantial piece of equipment.
     
  9. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    I am a dealer, that is a smoking deal on the demo and the diesel. I cant say what dealer cost is, but the 60" super is dang near there, and the diesel is $2000 less than dealer cost. If a dealer sells a diesel hustler for $13000 they have to be crack heads looking for next bump, I wouldn't be able to keep my doors open for that. MSRP is $16599, and the promo or cutter price is $14499.....lol. Even if the gas super z is the cheapest model they sell with fx850 kawa and Michigan seat she is still $12142 msrp and $10599 promo priced.... I bleed orange, but it would be a hard decision for me, I like to be the first to put a scratch on something. I will tell you, you need the flex forks on the hustler cause it still doesn't ride as good as the bb though! Let us know which one you go with... If you go with either one keep me in mind I am king in parts... marbain treated 60" blades as low as $8.99 each in volume...
     
  10. Olympus

    Olympus LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for that info retrodog! That makes me feel a lot better. Do you know if the Hustler warranty will transfer to me with the used diesel?
     

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