Who is going to help me rip this off?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by Drafto, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. Drafto

    Drafto LawnSite Senior Member
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    The home owner wants a wider stoop. I thought about building around the current one and overlaying pavers, but doing that I would have to cut the railing and place it in my block further out. The stoop is 50 years old and has some slight chipping occurring.

    Here is my question. I have never removed one of the these, what can I expect if I do? It does not appear to be attached to the foundation, are they normally? Are these things solid concrete or is it mostly stone under there? Any help is always appreaciated.

    Thanks,

    Dan

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  2. cgland

    cgland LawnSite Bronze Member
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    It was most likely poured in place w/ possibly some rebar tying into the foundation. You will probably have to patch a couple of holes in the foundation once it is removed.

    Chris
     
  3. Drafto

    Drafto LawnSite Senior Member
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    That sounds expensive to remove. I just don't like building around these, if I was veneering like Mbella does I would feel fine. But adding 12" to each side and expecting it not to settle sounds just as expensive as removing it.

    Dan
     
  4. Squizzy246B

    Squizzy246B LawnSite Senior Member
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    We just run the Quick-Cut along the top step and check out the constructuction. Often they are formed with brickwork and then poured. Smack it around with a sledge hammer and if its not pinned to the house pull it out with an excavator. If it is we just keep making cuts from the lowest point and work our way up with the sledge hammer.
     
  5. Dirty Water

    Dirty Water LawnSite Fanatic
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    I used to pour those for a living.

    Usually we would form it up out of wood, and rough fill it in with reject sand.

    There is probably about 4-6" of concrete before you hit sand/rock whatever.

    There will be rebar running along each step and tied into the foundation usually.
     
  6. Drafto

    Drafto LawnSite Senior Member
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    Hey Jon. How confident are you? Are we betting even up, or with the spread?

    Dan
     
  7. sheshovel

    sheshovel LawnSite Fanatic
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    Heck don't worry about the railings they look like crap anyway!I would try to sell them on a new porch
    BIGGER and farther out and semi rounded in the front + a new walkway leading up and matching it.
    Maybe something more like this
    Disclaimer..I am a lousy paint user..do not hold it against me!
    you get the basic idea though
     
  8. hortiscape

    hortiscape LawnSite Member
    from Vermont
    Posts: 30

    I would pull it out anyway, I say pull it out because if it is seperated from the house it should do just that. The security of building your work on your work is worth the time. If it is attached the scoring and bashing method works great for us. Always do your work from the ground up. That way there is no question.
     
  9. PurpHaze

    PurpHaze LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'm with SS on this one. Replace the damn thing and the railings. I'm not crazy about the rounded look but if someone posted a decent picture of a rounded stoop you might get my vote then. :p
     
  10. Drafto

    Drafto LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 442

    Since I have never done one of these:

    How many man hours do you think it will take to get if off? And what tools/equipment besides an excavator and obvious saw and hammers?

    Dan
     

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