Who scalps, Who doesn't

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by 06er, Apr 13, 2006.

  1. 06er

    06er LawnSite Member
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    Just want to find out how many operations scalp their bermuda & zoysia lawns in early spring. Not wanting to start a great debate just poll the numbers. Thanks,
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  2. brucec32

    brucec32 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I "scalp" most Bermuda lawns down to 1.5", not the dirt. (Emerald) Zoysia seems to really recover slowly from it so maybe 1.75". Due to flaws in installs and limitations of rotary mowers it's mowed starting at 1.75" and raised as it outgrows weekly mowing up to as high as 3" in some cases by the end of the season. No reel mowing here. Virtually nobody will pay what it's really worth, so I leave it to specialists.
     
  3. LLandscaping

    LLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
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    We scalp Bermuda and Zoysia to about 1 3/4". (2nd setting on Toro Proline) We dont cut is all the way to the ground because it is too much work and our mowers (Toro 21's) wont cut that low. Our Scag will cut low but we dont like to use them to scalp. We usually lower the height of the grass gradually at the end of the year.
     
  4. lawnprosteveo

    lawnprosteveo LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Tulsa
    Posts: 1,930

    I get alot of requests for this each spring. I cut it at about 1.75" and bag it.

    The only real benefit I notice is that the yard greens up quickly afterwards.

    Not sure why everyone likes this, but the money is good for me!
     
  5. SOMM

    SOMM LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 426

    We feel scalping invites crabgrass and weed infestations on bermuda and zoy, and don't do it.

    We don't do much else to the bermuda zoy clients except aeration and soil amendments if necessary, fertilizer, weed control, grub control and regular side-chute mower it at 2.5" once a week to keep clippings low. We give 'em a light ag-lime treatment in summer to compost any nuisance clippings, which are few most years (if the clippings are bad, just bamboo or big-green sweep rake 'em up and tarp 'em off).

    Regards and welcome to Lawnsite !
     
  6. spcfoor

    spcfoor LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 261

    I cut all my bermuda yards at about 1.5" for the first cut and raise it to about 3" by the end of the year.
     
  7. grassyfras

    grassyfras LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I don't but most lawns here are just partial zoshia. I rarly seen it done here.
     
  8. lawnartisan

    lawnartisan LawnSite Member
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    im new at this but Im confident in my ability to adapt. I have a customer for whom I installed bullseye bermuda sod with perrenial rye this fall and I graded it like a pool table. Too much work for what he paid but this one was like a project. rite now I cut it at 1/2" and it looks like a fairway. Im still not sure if any of the bermuda has actually transitioned I think all I see is rye?????? BecauseI thought this type of bermuda would be a finer texture. I guess I will find out soon.
     
  9. VWBOBD

    VWBOBD LawnSite Member
    Posts: 223

    YOU GUYS ARE NOT SCALPPING IF YOU ARE CUTTING TO 1.5 IN
    I MAINTAIN MY BERMUDA AT 1.25 INCHES ALL SEASON, AND I SCALP DOWN TO ABOUT 1/2 " IN EARLY SPRING .BAGGING THE CLIPPINGS OF COURSE, MINE REALLY POPS TOO!, I HAVE SEVERAL NEIGHBORS WHO DO NOTHING OF THE SORT AND THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY MINE GREENS ALMOST A MONTH BEFORE THIERS . NEXT SEASON IM GOING TO BURN IT JUST BEFORE SPRING PER THE RECCOMENDATON OF A GROUNDS KEEPER AT A GOLF COURSE.
    SCALPING WORKS GREAT TO ELIMINATE THE OLD DEAD STEMS FROM PREVIOUS YEAR, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT IT TO ROCK AND PISS OFF THE NEIGHBORS USE A VERTICUTTER ON IN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEAVIEST GROWING MONTH, IT WILL LOOK BAD FOR ABOUT A WEEK BUT BOY IS IT AWESOME AFTER THAT . BESIDES IT BREATHES BETTER AFTER GETTING RID OF ALL THAT UNDER GROWTH OF OLD ROOT SYSTEM. HOWEVER IF YOU BURN IT DOWN , VERTICUTTING WILL PROBABLY NOT BE NEEDED. bUT WHAT EVER YOU DO USE A GOOD QUALITY REEL MOWER ON THIS TYPE OF GRASS AND SMOOTH OUT THE ROUGH AREAS WITH SAND/SOIL MIXTURE .
     

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