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Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by Efficiency, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Cadzilla

    Cadzilla LawnSite Senior Member
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    A lot of states including Michigan have phosphorous restrictions.

    Can't use it unless you're seeding or sodding or you test and show a need.
     
  2. Scott@CPS

    Scott@CPS LawnSite Member
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    Makes one million percent more sense . Thanks
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  3. Skipster

    Skipster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I'm trying to figure out why you need different nutrient rates in shaded lawns. If you think you need different rates, then you must be tying shaded performance to nutrient status.

    Are you applying 2.7 to 3# P2O5/M to these lawns in a single application, or multiple apps spread over a season?

    If you're using a 1:1:1 ratio that you called a "starter" in an earlier post, then you're applying 2.7 to 3# N/M, which is the standard recommendation for cool season turf in the Midwest.

    If you're trying to use less N, why just use less N, instead of applying other nutrients that aren't needed?

    The fertilizers that the OSU work looked at were phosphite fertilizers and these only had minimal effect when used on creeping bentgrass putting greens, but no effect on lawn grasses.
     
  4. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
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    Glad I live in Ohio and can make sound agronomic decisions!

    :)
     
  5. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Posts: 6,046

    We apply a pre on round 1 and starter on the last 3 apps.

    We have all cool season grasses!

    Technically we are mostly TTTF and it requires less N anyway.

    We don't use a 1:1:1. We actually use 18-24-12 50%PPSCU.

    N=vegetative growth
    P=root growth

    I can assure you that the starter product cost is 2X that of our regular fert. If my process and agronomics didn't work it would be foolish to do this.

    Quesion me and my program all you would like but it works great and I only recommend sound agronomic service. Can you cut your rate on a 30% product and still be ok. Yes.

    But as I started I like to throw a well balanced diet and keep good root on my shaded lawns.

    I guess I am not real worried about if you understand why we do what we do! You can agree or disagree, but I have provided you with the agronomic facts and what we have found to work best!

    :)
     
  6. Efficiency

    Efficiency LawnSite Bronze Member
    from zone 6
    Posts: 1,538

    Selling lawn care with snown on the ground is about as fun as....
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  7. trimmasters

    trimmasters LawnSite Senior Member
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    No kidding, 38 yesterday maybe 10 today.
     
  8. Efficiency

    Efficiency LawnSite Bronze Member
    from zone 6
    Posts: 1,538

    True story. Morale in the office today was dismal
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  9. klsgc

    klsgc LawnSite Member
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    A pathetic 7 today. Its amazing how snow turns my phone off
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  10. klsgc

    klsgc LawnSite Member
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    I think your pay scale is the holdup of your business. Min wage guys can't make treatments let alone show face to your customer.
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