Ok, I have been full-time for a few years and manage to make a decent living with this business that I TOTALLY enjoy. I have used a few subs here and there in the past but primarily it is just me and my elder children. This year I decided to hire a few people full-time to help me free up some family time. I have read many threads in lawnsite about how virtually impossible it is to find good work ethic in todays laborforce. I figured I could certainly be able to overcome any situations that might come along. WRONG !! I hired 3 guys. 1 lasted 2 days, the 2nd lasted 4 days, and the 3rd has almost a month in but is ready to go back to watching TV as well. These guys were all in their mid 20's and couldn't stand working all day at a decent work pace. I am almost 50 and they can't keep up! That is pathetic!! The most discouraging part is that I received about 50 applications and these guys appeared to be the best bet. I have decided to go back to handling it with my family and occasional sub. It will mean that I have to let a few accounts go away but I will be better off in the long run. I just wish that I had trusted the advice of you other guys that have already gone down this road before.