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Discussion in 'Fertilizer Application' started by tracyalan, Sep 14, 2009.

  1. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,720

    This is Milorganite's History page from their web site:

    http://www.milorganite.com/about/history.cfm

    As you can see, not word 1 mentioned about iron past or present.
    This specific question may be worth a call or two to their 800 number, what'ya think? :)

    Oh, sure, I'm not debating whether iron is a naturally-occurring element or not. It has it's esteemed 26th place on the periodic table.
    And no doubt there's X amount of digested Fe that is processed into Milorganite right along with the turds.
    But is that X amount sufficient to total 4%? :confused: :confused:

    As far as your point about relatively few people not knowing the benefits of Fe on turfgrass, I take exception to that.
    'Ironite' has been seasonally marketed quite heavily nationwide the last couple of decades on radio & TV, newpapers & magazines since it left its early origin of golf course greens and entered the retail market:

    http://www.ironite.com/

    Like Milorganite, Ironite perennially suffers from an onslaught of criticism from organic gardeners, especially, because of a problem with arsenic & lead at ppm levels.

    But to the point....I think that because of super-aggressive & very well-timed marketing by a namesake company like Ironite, generally more folks know about the (short-term, cosmetic) benefits of iron than you may think.
     
  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    Maybe where you are at, or in your media market, but I have never heard an ironite commercial. First I knew abut the stuff's existance is from this forum. When people think about what's in a bag of fertilizer - they think its 'magic' if it's "Scott's Turbuilder" but not so good if it's another brand.
    Heck, we even have people on here who have been spreading Scott's w/pre-m, w/out realizing they are handling herbicide. :laugh: They read the back of the bag and visualize a 'barrier', not a root inhibiting chemical. :laugh:

    I had read a rather extensive history about Milorganite last year. It wasn't very informative about the contents and procedure of removing heavy metals etc., so I am not surprised you didn't find anything about iron either. Just that it is safe and FDA approved.
    I haven't checked to see if its dissolvable in water. I will leave that testing jar outside.
     
  3. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,720


    Yeah, Good point!....I wouldn't want a jar of Milorganite soaking in water anywhere near our kitchen! :laugh:

    And wouldn't it be logical that engineers in Milwaukee would use some sort of magnetic process to separate elemental iron from other non-magnetic metals that come across their poop line?
     
  4. starry night

    starry night LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,526

    Concerning the 4% iron: It just seems quite a coincidence that it would contain just that amount. Enough to be effective on lawns but not too much.
    I think I've seen some other brands of fertilizer adding that amount this year.
     
  5. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,720

    I called their 800 number today and was immediately dumped into perpetual hold w/ clasical wait music; so I e-mailed them a Q about Milorganite's 4% iron and its origin.
    I will post whatever response I get, if any.
     
  6. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    Cool, ... I'm curious if something is added now.

    Another thing I thought of, is that a similar product in the NE had 6% iron. I still bet it is a naturally occuring element in the sludge. We'll see... :)

    Don't you hate telephones nowdays... Every business and gov't agency should be forced to learn and respond - politely - by email. After all it would save everyone time and money...
     
  7. quiet

    quiet LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 720

    Hmmmm. Interesting. Down here our suppliers carry Houactinite from the Houston sewage system. It's listed as a 6-3-0 w/1% Iron. Milorganite is 6-2-0 w/4% Fe.

    Now I don't live in Houston. I live near Austin.
    I used to live in Madison, WI, but not Milwaukee.

    So I can't really say whether my crap has 50% more P and 75% less Fe than it did when I lived up North. And yet, it's somehow comforting to know that at age 54, I'm still crappin' out that 6% slow release N.

    And the beer farts haven't really changed from the switch from Blatz to Lone Star.
     
  8. starry night

    starry night LawnSite Silver Member
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh: That's great !
     
  9. quiet

    quiet LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 720

    That's why I've attained the status "Senior Member."

    You don't get this kind of insight from newbies.
     
  10. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,531

    :laugh::laugh: I was reading through the posts and kinda laughing to myself thinking "Well, they probably eat more Bratwurst up there. Maybe that's a good source of Iron." then I read your post and nearly lost it... Too Funny!
     

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