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Would you make this trade??

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by gogetter, Dec 17, 2002.

  1. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
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    Would you trade a 1999 Dodge Dakota V8 5.2L, regular cab, shortbed, 4x4, auto, PW, PL, 50K miles, excellent condition.

    For a:

    1995 Dodge 2500 Ram, V8, 4x4, 5sp manual trans, EZdump insert, 8' meyers plow, 80K miles, great condition.

    I love my Dakota! But I'd really like a heavier duty truck and really want to be able to dump material. Plus I could plow.
    They want $14,995 for the Ram. I paid $17,000 for the Dakota about a year and half ago.
    Kelly Blue Book trade in value of Dakota now is $10,500. Private sale is $12,700. I know I could get more then that if I sold privately.
    I'm trying to get them to go with an even trade. They are saying "it will be close" but sounds like they want something more from me. They are going to talk to the owner of the dealership and go from there. Meeting with them again tomorrow.

    So, thoughts? Thanks.
  2. Mykster

    Mykster LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 668

    In a minute.

    Let us know how it goes.
  3. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
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    I'm sitting here thinking how much more I should be willing to go.
    Like I said, I'd prefer an even trade, I know they can sell my Dakota for about $14K.
    But I know they're going to say they need more on top of my Dakota. I can't really afford to put out much cash at this time of the year. Maybe a $1,000 tops! Not much to bargain with.

    Any used car salesmen on here that might have some info/ammo that I can go in there with to get closer to an even trade?

    Going in around 5pm (Wed). Not much time left, but thought I'd try to get some opinions here first.

    Thanks. I'll let you all know how it goes either way.
  4. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
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    Wow! What a bunch of idiots at that dealer!!

    When we talked yesterday, they said they would get as close to an even trade as possible. I said "well, close is a relative term. Do you mean close as in $1K, or close as in $4K in addition to my truck?".
    The sales manager said, "oh no, not $4K!". I asked how close can we get to the $1K? He said he didn't want to say without talking to the owner, but he would try his best.
    Well today the wife and I go there to meet with them again. They come back with $5,800 ON TOP of my truck!!!!

    This place is an hour away! What a waste of 3 hours of my time!!

  5. Mykster

    Mykster LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 668

    Funny how they consider that close.
  6. Randy J

    Randy J LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,124

    How quick could you sell your truck? If you can get it sold pretty quick, or even if you can do without a truck for the winter, maybe you can still buy this truck, or take your time and find another. There was a '93 (old body style) Dodge Cummins 4X4 regular cab, with a plow for sale in Michigan. I think he wanted about $7800 for it. It was a pretty clean, one-owner truck.

  7. bubble boy

    bubble boy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,020

    that sucks. my bet is he wanted you in there so baited you. hope you gave him a piece of your mind when you left...
  8. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
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    Yeah, I was pretty po'ed. I had told them the first night that if we were talking about anything close to the $4K range, that I was out. I was clear that I didn't have that kind of money. Yet they still wasted my time (and they knew that it was over an hour drive for me too).

    They saleman tried to shake my hand good bye, we just walked out.

    Here's what gets me. They told me that if I could sell my truck and had the cash, they'd let me have the Ram for $13,700.

    I KNOW they can get that or more for my Dakota plus I was willing to add $2K. But they'd rather just sell the Ram for $13,700 now? They're passing up $2K for just the trouble of doing the paperwork for the trade. Makes no sense.

    And I've been looking around ALOT for a 3/4 ton in that year range and mileage range and nothing else out there is even coming close to the deal on that Ram. Everything else I'm seeing is $14,995 for JUST the truck, no plow or dump insert.

    Oh well, gonna detail my truck this weekend and put it in the Truck Trader and see what happens.

    Anyone wanna buy a nice Dakota? LOL!
  9. Brickman

    Brickman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,249

    9 times out of 10 the dealerships are very stupid. I feel sorry for the sales people cuz they didn't have any part in the pricing usually. It is their manager or the owner. And then they get the rough end from both parties.
  10. hosejockey2002

    hosejockey2002 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,195

    Gogetter, sounds like they sucked you in. You said wholesale book on your truck was 10,500. With few exceptions, dealers never give you more than wholesale book on a trade in, UNLESS they can make the money back from you by selling you the truck at an inflated price or screwing you on financing. I have at times done a little better than wholesale book and still gotten a good price on the vehicle I've bought, but not much. To the dealer your Dakota is just a pile of cash, worth 10,500, no more, no less.

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