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Wright's new Stand on Comparrison Chart

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by tallimeca, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. tallimeca

    tallimeca LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,229

    Got a pm from the site about Wright's new stand on comparrison chart, which compares the new Toro Grand Stand, their unit, and the Gravely/Great Dane.

    Some points are valid. Wright makes a good unit.

    However, I found this amusing. When talking about the Gravely/Dane, it said this

    "— Platform is ahead of the rear wheels, making
    it harder to get on and off quickly without
    interference from the rear of the mower."

    Haha. Not like your climbing over the rear wheels or anything...haha. You step onto the platform just like the Wright machine......except it's a 6 inch difference from where their platforms differ. How exactly does this interfer with getting on and off the machine? Hahahaha.:dizzy:

    I kinda take this like the question the smarts of the people shopping for their mower.

    They should post videos of why they have wheelie rollers on their machines if the balance is so great?

    Here's a funny video. "This is Ms. Jones. Your guy was here to cut the lawn today and made a mess!!!


    Ever pick up your new Stander and think your tires look a little bald?


    Ever wonder why you continuously are replacing hydro pumps, or why your guys never seem to finish on time?

  2. Wright Mfg

    Wright Mfg Guest
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    You might call it a minor point when you are just casually getting on and off the mower, but consider that you often get off a mower to pick up something in front of you and when you step off their machine you're still between the wheels and have to back out to go around the machine. You may still consider this a minor point, but there are also hairy situations you can get into and I would rather be on the back of the mower than surrounded by it. The bottom line is that there is no advantage to having the platform forward except for driving straight up a hill and the only reason it was designed that way was because Dane couldn't put the platform in the optimal position due to our patents. We still gave him a limited license to put it where it is, a less desirable position.

    You don't understand. We have rollers "because" the balance is so great. If our mower had less need for rollers, it would mean that the mower was more front heavy, and the mower would tend to nose dive when crossing hills.

    Those video's were not examples of how you should mow. What they do show is how maneuverable the ZK is at a high speed, and somewhat demonstrates the low polar moment. Any other mower would not turn as quickly and would be sliding more, and so you would have less control. The videos also show that you can stay on the machine when turning quickly without centrifugal force throwing you off, as it may with the rear platform example, particularly if it could go that fast.

    As I'm sure you know and as the video shows, machine abuse is not limited to the treatment of Standers. We had nothing to do with that video BTW.
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  3. Wright Mfg

    Wright Mfg Guest
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    It's actually at least a 9 inch diffenence because their tire is 18" (20" on JD) and the back of their platform is at least 1 inch ahead of the wheel axis.
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  4. tallimeca

    tallimeca LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,229

    Jeez, take offense already. The video's were a joke!!! Haha.

    Which also means when going UP a hill, the front casters come off the ground. Just like they do loading it on a trailor. Which is why you have wheelie wheels on it.

    You talk like you have to walk down a hallway to get on the competition. This is a stretch and why i'm pointing it out that i think it's silly.

    So if I were in a "hairy situation" that you were surrounded by the machine on the competition, that means i'd be backed up against something, like if i slid backwards into a retaining wall??

    ......if you were on the back of it, like on your machine, I would would be getting crushed?

    Look, i didn't post this to argue with you. I just think some of your comparrisons could bring up much better points to argue then on your chart. After all, the brass here sent out PM's about this new chart. I looked at it and am giving my opinion on it.

    Like your comparrion on the grandstand, the operator would be higher on the machine and probably have to duck more under limbs, and the top of your enclosed trailor*** (seen a customer bash his forhead open once, it was funny for about 5 seconds until i realized he was really hurt)

    Your a manufacturer and i'm criticizing you. I listen to it all the time, and now it's my turn, haha. Take it with a grain of salt.
  5. Frue

    Frue LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,472

    I have used both machines the grandstand and the wright. The wrights faster and goes up hills better but thats it. As far as comfort side hills and cut quality sorry wright toro has out done you. Good luck selling a 10000 machine verses the 8000 grandstand witch both are way over priced.
  6. Wright Mfg

    Wright Mfg Guest
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    Tallimeca- I'm not here to argue either. I'll just end it with this, very simply. There are many trade-offs. Buyers will need to determine which mower has the best combination of trade-offs.
  7. WoodBrothersLC

    WoodBrothersLC LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 418

    Wright will always sell more than the competition. There's a reason that nearly every LCO in my area chooses the Wright Stander over Great Dane even though they are priced higher...they are a flat out better mower. They were the first of their kind which has enabled them to keep that original design that has worked so well and laugh as knock off brands try to mimick them. I don't think that the $10,000 price will scare loyal Wright users away. I'm on my second one and looking to buy a third in the spring. Thanks Wright for making a great product.
  8. Wright Mfg

    Wright Mfg Guest
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    Thanks WoodBrothersLC

    FRUE- I don't think you realize that most of our Stander models are under $8000 MSRP and if you get the early season discount, even better. The $10,000 price you spoke of would be the Stander ZK, which way out classes the Grandstand with larger wheels, hydro system, engine hp, fuel capacity, speed, etc.
  9. tallimeca

    tallimeca LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,229

    didn't mean to start another one of these stupid debate posts. Just pointing out the PM i got about this new chart and found it amusing, and posted some videos to laugh about.


    I give I give!!!

    Now we can apparently debate the grandstand vs wright.

    New material!!! Alas!!
  10. cajuncutter

    cajuncutter LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 626

    Ohhh how I wish Hustler had bowed down to Wrights Mfg. and payed the fee to keep making the Shortcut. You could both stand and sit on that machine. I have turned my Hustler Hog into a Shortcut and hope it will last me another 5 or 6 years. I hope they revisit this type of mower. The shortcut was superior to the Stander and it's cousin the Sentar. And yes I have been on both and neither would compare. Shortcut was in a class of it's own.

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