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Y not just cut the grass and the leaves?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by stxkyboy, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. stxkyboy

    stxkyboy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 222

    If they dont want to pay for leave clean up then just cut the grass what is the big deal here.
  2. Wolfie's L&L

    Wolfie's L&L LawnSite Member
    Posts: 211

    Yea but if you are ONLY going to cut the grass, you have to first somehow remove the leaves. That takes extra energy, you have to find somewhere to dispose of the raked leaves, and that all will cost extra.

  3. fga

    fga LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,449

    for me, we bag everything. having to empty every 10' would kill me..
    and when your done, and you dong the final blow of the curbs, drives or streets... how do you not charge for the extra time with all the leaves in the way....... can't work around them unless they are so insignificant that the mowing process is not hindered in the slightest way. period.
  4. Bray

    Bray LawnSite Member
    Posts: 87

    It depends on the way they want the job done. The customer is always right you know. I'll do whatever if they want them picked up or if they want them mulched up I do whatever it takes. I charge a bit more than other LCO's anyway to adjust for all this. I usually blow all the leaves out of the corners before I pull the mower of the trailer. I proceed to mulch them up and do whatever it takes to make the lawn look good. I will never rake or use a leaf loader as they are a waist of money, time, and space. If it's bad I will mulch them and if there is some left over I will bag them on a 1 inch higher setting. Total time of about 15 min extra that I have built in during the season. Some lawns are worse than others but in my bids I add all that into consideration and I make sure they know that. Most people look at bills as an every month thing and I make sure I make the cost the same every month. I try to bid all my lawns that end up giving me 2 extra cuts a year to compensate. This also allows me to send them a gift certificate the movies or to a restaurant for their patronage at the end of the season if I feel they deserve it. Leaves don't bother me at all this way, and if you think about it why don't we charge more in the spring when the grass grows so fast?
  5. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,501

    I do. It's called a 5-day mowing rotation.
  6. stxkyboy

    stxkyboy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 222

    wht is it nessecary to remove the leaves...if the owner doesnt want them removed just cut them what is the hold up?
  7. Wreak

    Wreak LawnSite Member
    Posts: 90

    Well, it takes twice to three times as long to mow right over the leaves. Besides, all the mulched up leaves could eventually kill the grass and in the spring you won't have anything to mow. You need to think of it as a long term thing and what's better for the grass and if you have a future in mowing it next season. It would be in the customer's best intrest and your best interest if they were to pay a little extra for the extra time you spend picking up the leaves.
  8. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,758

    Bray, that is the exact same way I do them. My customers (or my area will not pay extra, so you better figure it in a year round price). There are exceptions if I GRRR have to vacumm I charge a little extra depending on the amount of debri. I did one of my PITA ladies yesterday and it took me about a extra 15 minutes to blow pecan leaves away from the house and fence and I mulch the yard year round anyways. I would like to charge all the extra $$$ some of the LCO charge for on here but it dont flush in my neck of the woods.

  9. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,501

    Danny, you need to relocate to a different neck of the woods IMO...and real soon too btw.
  10. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,758

    Rodfather, that is a very real possibility in the near future.


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