Had done a follow up call with a lady whom I provided a proposal for. She was very nice, polite, etc. She says to me "we're going to go with someone else who is significantly less". So I politely start asking her if this other person is going to use geo-textile fabric. She says "no, he said he doesn't use it". I then proceed to politely explain the importance of using geo-textile fabric, I explain again, what it does, and I explain what can happen if not used. I then politely explain that when a contractor says they don't use it - that's a red flag. So she politely says to me "can you send me the name of the brand and model of geo-textile that you use?" LOL - ummm.......NO. CAll your trusty expert contractor that you hired. really, I bet they are having a relative or friend do the work.