got a 32" encore with a 12hp electric start briggs. well, i go to start it today and nothing. check the battery and its fully charged so i'm assuming a loose wire or bad starter. to tell you the truth i'm sick of it and i'd like to convert it to a recoil start. my question, can this be done or do i need to just chuck the motor and buy a recoil? thanks for replies.
can you convert an electric start to a recoil?
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First things first.
Remove your starter, take it to a small engine, or electric motor/generator repair shop and see if they can test it, to see if it produces adequate power. It has to be able to spin your engine fast enough to start it. If you call ahead to a few places and tell them what you are doing, then they can tell you where to go.
Well, that was a bad choice of words, now wasn't it?
They can tell you where to take starter motor to have it tested.
One word. I have replaced starters with, off the shelf, "brand new" _and_ re-manufactured, that were bad, out of the box.
'Cause if the starter is toast then it ain't gonna fix it'self.
If you own a volt meter and are not afraid to tread where few venture, then let me know and I will give you some direction, starting with a logical explanation of what we hope to determine with each check. "Be patient Luke"(Obi-Wan Kenobi)
Remove your starter, take it to a small engine, or electric motor/generator repair shop and see if they can test it, to see if it produces adequate power. It has to be able to spin your engine fast enough to start it. If you call ahead to a few places and tell them what you are doing, then they can tell you where to go.
Well, that was a bad choice of words, now wasn't it?
They can tell you where to take starter motor to have it tested.
One word. I have replaced starters with, off the shelf, "brand new" _and_ re-manufactured, that were bad, out of the box.
'Cause if the starter is toast then it ain't gonna fix it'self.
If you own a volt meter and are not afraid to tread where few venture, then let me know and I will give you some direction, starting with a logical explanation of what we hope to determine with each check. "Be patient Luke"(Obi-Wan Kenobi)
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yeah, i have a volt meter. but i also have a silly question. what does the starter look like? is it that can looking thing next to the motor?
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OK, Heres the parts needed to convert to recoil start.
One of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=695058
Four of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=690837
Four of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=690800
One of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=691191
And one of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=695113
I'm out a here..............
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One of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=695058
Four of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=690837
Four of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=690800
One of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=691191
And one of these; http://www.briggspowershop.com/Brig...s.aspx?sendingPageType=SearchResults&Catalog=BriggsAndStratton&ProductId=695113
Sorry wizard, But I'm gonna leave the rest up to our electrical guru Jim :waving:lawnwizards said:
I'm out a here..............
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Research it a little based on Restrorob's post then get back to me _only_ if you are serious in proceeding. As I said, it requires a little time and patience.lawnwizards said:
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o.k. heres the scoop now. i did the tests you mentioned in the above quote. the first one i put the red cable on the positive side and put the other red on the side of the starter where the red cable connects and got nothing. i did test 2 and got about 12.6 volts. i did test 3 and got 10.74 volts when i turned the key to on. according to you i have a bad starter and solenoid. is this correct or could one being bad cause the other to not work.. thanks.FIXDISS said:
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Try one more test. Take jumper cables and hook to your pickup truck.Do not start truck. Take the black cable and hook it to the base of the mower engine where it will stay connected. Take the red cable and touch it directly to the starter terminal. If starter does not engage and spin engine you have bad starter.
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its fixed. it was a bad solenoid. had one from an old briggs lawn tractor and exchanged them and it started right up.. thanks for all the help everybody.FIXDISS said:
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yeah i know. and the thing is, i had a solenoid off an old lawn tractor just waiting for me to use it and it was free... again i want to thank you guys for your help.FIXDISS said:
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In the future, you probably won't be able to bump the starter using just the red battery cable. Its better to ground the battery and cable to a chassy point as well for a better circuit.lawnwizards said:
Thats why you were not able to get the starter to bump that way.
My mower has a burned out solinoid, and in my lazyness I just start it with a pair of jumpers, I could change the solinoid but why??
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