Thanks guys, I guess I will wait till fall. Bill Craig, I was thinking about it because a customer asked about it, for their lawn o' rock. They had a new septic system put in 2 years ago, and the contractors decided to use dirt, it really seems like they just planted the grass into fill, with no top soil. They dont want any major re-working of the area, and it is so compacted that grass no longer grows in it, just a few weeds. What I am thinking now is that i will do it during the fall, try to add some decent top soil to the area at the same time, and overseed like heck. THanks for the advice guys, once again, lawnsite has helped me tremendously.