what would you do if hardscaping around a 'to-be-built' pool? do you wait till the water is in? do you glue coping pieces at the edge? looking for some thoughts since I haven't done around a pool before.
'scaping around an inground pool
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It would depend on several things; what kind of access, what kind of hardscaping, backfill issues, etc, etc, etc.
Usually wait until the pool is in place (sides shot/built), then work with/around the pool company on the rest. If the sides are up, then you should be fine starting to do your work, especially if its a gunnite pool.
Coping should be done by the pool company. I wouldn't want to touch that job at all...
Usually wait until the pool is in place (sides shot/built), then work with/around the pool company on the rest. If the sides are up, then you should be fine starting to do your work, especially if its a gunnite pool.
Coping should be done by the pool company. I wouldn't want to touch that job at all...
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great tip, thank you:waving:
I meet with the client next week to get details and they said the pool company is happy to help since they will have some heavy equip on site already.
I know its a Foxx in-ground pool, so its quality.
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If it's a new pool, being built, usually the pool contractor will handle the coping installation.
And the coping install will depend on what type of inground pool it is.
I like flagstone copings. In the picture directly below, we replaced the pool deck with pavers and WE installed the flagstone. Looks SWEET, dont it!
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And the coping install will depend on what type of inground pool it is.
I like flagstone copings. In the picture directly below, we replaced the pool deck with pavers and WE installed the flagstone. Looks SWEET, dont it!
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great pict, do you have to be careful with tamping near the pool edge? How do you keep dust or debris out of the pool while putting in the pavers?(or is the pool not filled yet) what slope do you use away from the pool (1" to 10'?
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Unless you have some really heavy compaction equipment, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Stay away from the pool edge with any large equipment unless absolutely necessary.
If any substaintial fill is needed, I'd look pretty hard at flowable fill (we had a thread on it in the last month or two)- it goes in fast and you save a LOT of time and labor.
Debris isn't usually an issue, because the pool usually isn't finished yet. However if it is, keep the pool cover closed as much as possible, and work *with* the wind. Stress to the customer that the cover *needs* to be closed- i.e.- no swimming while you are working. Nothing more frustrating than having the customer getting PO'ed at you for dust in the pool after they come out and open the cover... Been there, done that.
Slope needs to be away from the pool, generally 1-2% is adequate, same as a normal patio install.
If any substaintial fill is needed, I'd look pretty hard at flowable fill (we had a thread on it in the last month or two)- it goes in fast and you save a LOT of time and labor.
Debris isn't usually an issue, because the pool usually isn't finished yet. However if it is, keep the pool cover closed as much as possible, and work *with* the wind. Stress to the customer that the cover *needs* to be closed- i.e.- no swimming while you are working. Nothing more frustrating than having the customer getting PO'ed at you for dust in the pool after they come out and open the cover... Been there, done that.
Slope needs to be away from the pool, generally 1-2% is adequate, same as a normal patio install.
Not trying to hijack a thread or anything, but while we are on the topic. What are you guys doing on steel walled pools, no gunite. Is the force of flowable fill too much in this situation? I havent come across the issue yet, but I do know there are companies around here that use beams instead of gunite with a liner.
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Don't know; haven't had to deal with one yet. I've only worked around a couple of pools, and they've all been gunnite.
I'd probably consult pretty hard with the pool company as well as someone from my supplier/manufacturer before I did anything around *any* pool, lined, gunnite or otherwise. Each pool builder will probably want things done in a slightly different manner. It'll happen eventually (at least it has in my experience), but you probably don't wan to p*ss off the pool company owner from the get-go. :laugh:
I'd probably consult pretty hard with the pool company as well as someone from my supplier/manufacturer before I did anything around *any* pool, lined, gunnite or otherwise. Each pool builder will probably want things done in a slightly different manner. It'll happen eventually (at least it has in my experience), but you probably don't wan to p*ss off the pool company owner from the get-go. :laugh:
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if it is a liner pool it will look like this underneath
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For your question about keeping dust out of a pool when your laying pavers, I'm not sure I know the answer to that ha. Last three pool jobs my company did the pool ended up looking like crap after, especially when you put the polmeric sand in and blow the excess off with a blower. As for compacting near the coping I found the easiest way to do it is to set the paver really close to exact with the coping and going over it with the compactor but with a piece of carpet over the paver. I don't know if this helped. Pools are tough jobs especially when you have a huge area of disturbed soil your chances for settling are really up there. I've had to fix alot of the pool my company had done from 5-10 years ago due to settling and frost heaves. good luck
Dvs hardscaper really nice pool job, Are those Belgard pavers? Also I've never seen coping with flag stone its looks really great, did you have to show the clients any other jobs were you used stone like that or did they just see the material and love it. Also ha sorry what type of material did you use inbetween the coping joints?
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Wow, what a bone head, I didn't even think about the disturbed soil and the picture from start2finish really illustrates that potential problem.
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Yes I will be involved, I remember the threads, I believe you said using it to fill in around the pool instead of backfilling then you would use crusher as normal.
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one method of helping with settling is to backfill and wait 2 months before finishing. this will with normal rainfall allow for settleing. If there is not rain the set up sprinklers.
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No Way, MAN! Those pavers are Techo-Bloc's Athena.
Actually this particular client more or less let me select the materials.
Between coping joints we just used a mortar grout.
Also, we don't even try to keep a pool clean when woring around them. No, we don't come in like a bunch of cowboys and just make a mess. Typically the pool will need drained, cleaned, and re-filled. Which is why we try to work around pools before they open.
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