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I agree unless it's an out front deck like a Grasshopper. Then I feel like it would be worth it. But there are people that like that option in a midmount, I over heard some guys at Expo last year complain about always having to raise and lower the deck with their foot. Maybe there are circumstances where it would make sense.
That is a strange statement, maybe they only have a left leg. My 66" deck on the Super Z lifts so easy if I am not careful I will kick it into transport by accident (have done it many times). I would hate to think I could not raise the deck in an instant for different undulations and obstacles.
 
Bad Boy mowers all come standard with electric deck lifts. The lift is rated at 1000#, but the deck weighs around 250#. Should last a long time at just 1/4 capacity. They also have an optional foot pedal, so you can lift the deck on the fly (to prevent scalping or to jump curbs). Hows about the best of both worlds?
 
Bad Boy mowers all come standard with electric deck lifts. The lift is rated at 1000#, but the deck weighs around 250#. Should last a long time at just 1/4 capacity. They also have an optional foot pedal, so you can lift the deck on the fly (to prevent scalping or to jump curbs). Hows about the best of both worlds?
Yes, that is the best of both worlds, I have talked with Bad Boy and told them how important the foot assist was when quick reaction is needed in certain mowing situations. I told them they had already installed the expensive feature and should add the foot assist on their mowers as standard, not an option. They said we will talk about this with our design people, Bad Boy is an exceptional company for listening to customer ideas.

I was impressed with their Lightning model I used for around thirty hours, that is considered a wonderful demo offered by any company. There are a number of dealers that want you to only ride a mower for a few minutes in their parking area and they classify that as a demo.
 
i was all ready to go with the 27 60 exmark since they are puttung the ultra \cut deck, by the way the king of ALL Decks, on the lazer full size z this year. but after hearing that bad boy is putting both electric and foot assist deck lift options really impresses me.
i am an exmark owner, a 2000 25 /60 with 2667 hours. i like the machine. but i dont like that toro owns exmark. toro is a company who buys out good name product , such as wheel horse and lawnboy for example, and then cheapins the product so bad, but before the customer can figure that out, toro sells millions of dollars of inventory of that product.
bad boy, may be the next exmark. i need to inspect.
 
i was all ready to go with the 27 60 exmark since they are puttung the ultra \cut deck, by the way the king of ALL Decks, on the lazer full size z this year. but after hearing that bad boy is putting both electric and foot assist deck lift options really impresses me.
i am an exmark owner, a 2000 25 /60 with 2667 hours. i like the machine. but i dont like that toro owns exmark. toro is a company who buys out good name product , such as wheel horse and lawnboy for example, and then cheapins the product so bad, but before the customer can figure that out, toro sells millions of dollars of inventory of that product.
bad boy, may be the next exmark. i need to inspect.
I talked with Bad Boy this morning, when you want the foot assist option they build it to meet that need with the actuator bar they manufacture into the machine, then the foot assist kit is put on the machine at a cost of about $225.00.

The gentleman I talked with agreed with me that the foot assist needed to be on the mower for faster adjustment of the deck in certain situations. I again reiterated the expensive part of the deck lift was already assembled with each mower and the foot assist should not need be an option.

He said he also felt it should come standard with the mower but their design people had not put this into place at this time.

The Bad Boy is not in the market class of an Exmark at this time, but then again look at the price difference. I did a complete review of the Lightening model with a 32 hp. Vanguard engine comparing it with the Hustler Super Z's I have been running for the last several years, the review is located in this forum.
 
I've never heard of add on electric or hydraulic deck lifts. Can you give me a web site or manufacturer name.
Thanks, Ed
never heard of a hydraulic deck ?:confused: All i've ever owned are kubota z's. currently have 2 ZR326's they both have hydraulics decks , with two convient little foot pedals on the front off the mower. Im not a lzy person at all , but after having a hyd. deck mower i cant imagine ever operating anything else! As far as electric, im not familiar at all them.
 
never heard of a hydraulic deck ?:confused: All i've ever owned are kubota z's. currently have 2 ZR326's they both have hydraulics decks , with two convient little foot pedals on the front off the mower. Im not a lzy person at all , but after having a hyd. deck mower i cant imagine ever operating anything else! As far as electric, im not familiar at all them.
It is an electric actuator that raises and lowers the deck. Think of it as an extremely strong electric motor. The same thing that works the automatic locks on your vehicle doors but a lot stronger, they work great.
 
I have had problems with the muscles in my foot from dealing with the Scag unit and it got pretty bad. I have been in this business a long time and this is the first kind of problem that may sideline me. I would like to have some help in lifting the deck. Our units are 48" the big decks must be a big problem.
My 66" deck on the Hustler Super Z I run lifts so easily with the foot assist I will kick it into transport if I am not careful and I still do occasionally. It depends on how anything is designed and set up, yours could be made to do the same thing.
 
Originally Posted by FordLawnLandscape
never heard of a hydraulic deck ? All i've ever owned are kubota z's. currently have 2 ZR326's they both have hydraulics decks , with two convient little foot pedals on the front off the mower. Im not a lzy person at all , but after having a hyd. deck mower i cant imagine ever operating anything else! As far as electric, im not familiar at all them
An electric deck lift has a dc electric motor, gearbox and acme screw to cause the movement. An extension tube is attached to the nut on the screw and it looks like the piston on a hydraulic cylinder. Here is a cutaway picture of an electric actuator.
http://www.danahermotion.com/website/usa/eng/products/actuators.php
And here is a link to more information about electric actuators. They are used in all sorts of applications from deck lifts to dental chairs, farm gates, sieve adjust on combines, controlling ventilation in chicken coops, engine cover lifts on stern drive boats, seat lifts on scooters and wheelchairs, valve control, positioning salt or fertilizer gates on trucks, etc. They only go up to about 2000 lb thrust but they hold position with power off, the static load is usually twice the dynamic load rating, they can be controlled with just a double pole double throw switch and don't require any maintenance. You only need to route a pair of wires to them rather than hoses, they are compact easy to install. Hydraulics are great if you need a lot of force but for under 2000 lb of push or pull, electric actuators are usually a better option.

 
My 66" deck on the Hustler Super Z I run lifts so easily with the foot assist I will kick it into transport if I am not careful and I still do occasionally. It depends on how anything is designed and set up, yours could be made to do the same thing.
Puppypaws, is it spring assisted? :confused:
 
Puppypaws, is it spring assisted? :confused:
Yes, mine are spring assisted and I have never adjusted them. They were adjusted correctly when the mower came to me new. I would say I was just lucky and they got it perfectly adjusted when it was built.

I have a little over 300 hrs. on the mower and two times since it was new I sprayed starting fluid on the rods and springs to clean them good, then held a piece of cardboard (so I would only put it on the spring and rod) and sprayed a light coat of Fluid Film over them. The Fluid Film works great and makes the rod and spring work together so easily it is unbelievable. I would say that procedure also makes the deck move up and down easier floating over the ground while mowing. The up and down movement of my 66" Super Z deck works so easily I honestly have never seen a need for an automatic method of raising and lowering the deck I can do it so easily and much faster with my foot and hardly any effort at all.

You can see the spring and rod in this picture and also the adjusting nuts to tighten or loosen the tension.

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This is what the electric deck lifts look like.
Yes and I had to replace one. Cost is 330.00 for rebuild with a year warranty and 660.00 new. The rebuild failed after 9 days but they replaced it free of charge.

Great when it works but do not bend it. All it is is a ball screw and when the shaft bends it trashes the recirculateing ball track and I could not find repair parts.
 
Kubota ZD326 here with the hydraulic deck life. I have saved some potentially bad experiences by being able to bump the lift lever with my foot in a split second. I use it a bunch and its very nice. I will not own another mower without hydraulics on the deck. I have to say its very useful.

On just the pedal assist's , seems like even though I am holding the deck up with my foot a bumpy ride there is no way to keep your leg from bouncing thus you still get a scalp spot, or go to far and you are in transport so it basically boils down to WHAT YOU WANT! IMO hydraulics is the only way to go.
 
so, seems like one of disadvantages of electr. (hydro) lifts - speed?
by specs it rises 1'' per second; in field - one second time (time takes to say "one thousand one") too long, you rising deck with foot lift in time to say "one" -1/4 sec;

or some lifts geared-up faster? (considering spring preload)
what about added weight?
 
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