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I have a spray guy that does my commercial property and a lot of my residential accounts, but this guy is busy and can't drop what he's doing just to spray a few weeds growing in the cracks of sidewalks and rock beds. Is there any safe, no license required homebrew mix I can use in this situation?
 
I have a spray guy that does my commercial property and a lot of my residential accounts, but this guy is busy and can't drop what he's doing just to spray a few weeds growing in the cracks of sidewalks and rock beds. Is there any safe, no license required homebrew mix I can use in this situation?
Mojob

Most state laws are written in such a way that the act of killing weeds requires a license not the chemical used. But I am not a Lawyer or do I know your State laws. It seems to me there is a lot of Unlicensed Weed kill going on by Mowing guys. IMHO you have to spray the weeds if you want to be competitive in the mowing business. I know of a few unlicensed guys with the sprayer hidden behind the drivers sit. Not the proper thing for me to say, But do what you have to if the license is to much a hassle. Just don't move up to other types of Application. BTW Ag inspectors don't work week-ends. OK I know I am Bad for giving this advice.
 
Very bad...........lol
Runner

It is not like half the Mower guys aren't already doing it. We can't do all the weed spraying, there are way too many weeds. I turn my back now when I see Mack the Mowerman pull out his pump sprayer. My State even has a Roundup license that is very easy to get and I even taught the 6 hour CEU class for that License at one time. Sorry but it is not my job to stop all criminals.
 
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In this state you must have so many months/years of practical experience working under a licensed applicator before you can take the test. I'm thinking of asking my spray guy if I could "work" for him to gain my experience. I'm not sure how that will go over with him though. I bought all the books that they want you to study to take the test, but lost interest. It would be nice to be able to spray Round Up, though. As a "spray guy", how would you react if asked by a landscaper/mowing guy if he could work under your license?
 
When I lived in CO years ago, I know they had quite a few 4 or 5 week classes to help prepare for the tests. Everyone always said they were worth it. I don't know if they have changed the tests at all but they were tough when I took them.
 
In this state you must have so many months/years of practical experience working under a licensed applicator before you can take the test. I'm thinking of asking my spray guy if I could "work" for him to gain my experience. I'm not sure how that will go over with him though. I bought all the books that they want you to study to take the test, but lost interest. It would be nice to be able to spray Round Up, though. As a "spray guy", how would you react if asked by a landscaper/mowing guy if he could work under your license?
Mojob

Not the liability I would want to take on Lightly. There are many who practice the Rent-A-License business. Two Companies here in Florida actually make their business as Rent-A-License companies. They do so by several loop holes in the law and have gone to great legal expense to defend those loop holes. Something about being a stock holder in the company at high up front non-refundable fees and Royalties and office expenses. The Rentee makes little money but ends up being able to sit for the test after 3 years.
 
In Idaho, "any person using hand-powered equipment to apply pesticides other than restricted-use pesticides to lawns, or to ornamental trees and shrubs owned by such person, or as an incidental part of his business of taking care of yards for remuneration, and is not holding himself out as a professional applicator" is exempt from licensing.

I guess that doesn't help you much but I found it interesting.
 
in fla you can get a limited landscape lic. to spray roundup in flower beds and driveways
i believe with a manual sprayer no larger than 5 gal
this is some of the verbage in fl. check your state

Limited Certification Programs - The Bureau also administers two Limited Certification Categories to certify Governmental or Private applicators and the Commercial Landscape Maintenance applicators. Neither of these certifications allows the operation of a commercial pest control business.

Commercial Landscape Maintenance Applicator Certification - The Limited Commercial Landscape Maintenance Certification Program was designed to allow commercial landscape maintenance personnel to make pesticide applications (using herbicides, insecticides and fungicides, with a signal word of Caution) to ornamental plants and plant beds only. It does not allow landscape maintenance workers to make any kind of pesticide applications (including weed control and/or weed and feed products) to any turf areas. Furthermore, this certification does not allow or authorize the maintenance company or the certificate holder to supervise company employees under their certificate or operate a pest control business.

Beginning July 1, 2006 individuals who wish to make pesticide applications to plant beds and ornamentals no longer need to qualify for the Limited Commercial Landscape Maintenance examination by providing proof that they have worked in the landscape industry for three (3) years. An application for the LCLM certificate is made to the Bureau and an exam admission slip is provided to the applicant provided they have obtained six (6) hours of Department approved plant bed and ornamental training. The applicant makes arrangements with the local County Extension Service office or an approved provider to take the Limited Commercial Landscape Maintenance examination. The exam is then graded in Tallahassee and certificates issued to applicants who successfully pass the examination.
 
Bug Guy

Typical of all bureaucratic systems, Fla has some strange Laws and rules that really don't make sense. There are Two depts that certify and license pesticide application. The Bureau of Entomology, chapter 482 of Fla. law and the Bureau of Complaisance, Chapter 487 of Fla. law. Now I am not going to try and tell all about these two depts, But the Fact is I had to get a college degree to kill dandelions in a home yard while an idiot can spray weeds in a Lake, pond, river or any body of water without any kind of license. Once again I had to get a college degree to treat home lawns while any Idiot Can spray thousands of acres of Agriculture land. New Laws being past for fertilizer application effect only horticulture, while Agriculture which covers 100 time more land has no rules at all. As a Certified Commercial Applicator My License doesn't allow me to spray Weed Killer in Parking lots or Roads and Right aways. Therefore I have certifications and Licenses under Both chapter 482 and Chapter 487 of Florida Law and have two certification serial numbers. BTW I have an Aquatic Certification which only difference is I can apply Restricted Use Pesticides to Aquatic sites. Only trouble is there are no RUP pesticide for Aquatic registered in the state of Florida. Property Managers and HOA like to see the Aquatic license when awarding Aquatic contracts.
 
It would be nice to be able to spray Round Up, though.
Oh yeah. Living the dream! I look back on my pre-Round-Up days and wonder how I survived? I mean - what was the point in living? But THEN I bought my first bottle of glyphosate and everything changed! My hair thickened, the ladies flirted, and I always had money in my pocket! I mean, I now KNOW what this life is for! Thanks Monsanto! :laugh:

In Idaho, "any person using hand-powered equipment to apply pesticides other than restricted-use pesticides to lawns, or to ornamental trees and shrubs owned by such person, or as an incidental part of his business of taking care of yards for remuneration, and is not holding himself out as a professional applicator" is exempt from licensing.
That's because potatoes are so hard to kill that they figured it didn't much matter what folks did. :laugh:
 
Whoopass

I have always wanted to visit the Beautiful Beaches of Tropical Utah where you guys all have 5 wives. But why not 5 wives, you have 5 times the salt in your water as the ocean.
 
Whoopass

I have always wanted to visit the Beautiful Beaches of Tropical Utah where you guys all have 5 wives. But why not 5 wives, you have 5 times the salt in your water as the ocean.
Sound logic, I suppose. :rolleyes: But good hell, I can't hardly keep up with ONE woman! :laugh:

As for our beaches, I'll have you know that I live a scant 30 minutes from "The Caribbean of the West", aka Bear Lake! :laugh: I'll wager, though, it's not quite as warm as what you're accustomed to.

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I think if you're upfront about it and he knows he's training his future competition, he may respond in your favor. Understand that he may opt not to since he's going to invest time / effort into supervising you and gets nothing in return.

HTH

In this state you must have so many months/years of practical experience working under a licensed applicator before you can take the test. I'm thinking of asking my spray guy if I could "work" for him to gain my experience. I'm not sure how that will go over with him though. I bought all the books that they want you to study to take the test, but lost interest. It would be nice to be able to spray Round Up, though. As a "spray guy", how would you react if asked by a landscaper/mowing guy if he could work under your license?
 
Discussion starter · #20 ·
I won't be any competition. I'd just spray round up for my mowing customers.

Can we get back to the original question? Are there any "organic" homemade sprays that weeds don't like? I was thinking like a concentrated salt solution or something along those lines. Anybody?
 
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