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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Well .... lets add SL800 to the list. Installed only 1 SL800 the entire season and now it is looking like it is bad as well. For some reason it is not holding start times for schedule A. No other schedule or setting is affected. First time it was brought to my attention I thought maybe I forgot to set them. Went back today after being called about it, same thing, all start times for A gone.

WTF is up with WM quality assurance? Might have to start looking somewhere else for bottom feeding controllers is this is to be expected from WM. :rolleyes:
 
Well .... lets add SL800 to the list. Installed only 1 SL800 the entire season and now it is looking like it is bad as well. For some reason it is not holding start times for schedule A. No other schedule or setting is affected. First time it was brought to my attention I thought maybe I forgot to set them. Went back today after being called about it, same thing, all start times for A gone.

WTF is up with WM quality assurance? Might have to start looking somewhere else for bottom feeding controllers is this is to be expected from WM. :rolleyes:
I hate call backs on crap like this....I have since stopped installing SL's because of the call backs....
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Hunter SRC - no modules to screw up. Remote ready.
Well, not the SRC, but prior to this season I installed nothing but ICC and ProC. Never had any call backs on any ICC, and only a few on ProC.

I do like the WMSL for residential, but if I can expect 1 out of every 5 installed is going to get a callback for replacement, I will be looking somewhere else for a cost effective smart controller.
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
I hate call backs on crap like this....I have since stopped installing SL's because of the call backs....
Agreed. You shouldn't need to do quality assurance verification prior to installing the damn controller. If I get another bad controller this season, I will probably take the same road as you. Not only is it money out of your pocket, it doesn't do wonders for your reputation either.
 
ICC's have been good - the only gripe I can see is that the controller occasionally 'thinks' it has 48 zones, even though it isn't spazzing out on actual operation. (and you have to be checking the programming to see this)
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
We installed six of them this year, have not had serious problems as you describe. Has the factory/rep/branch been supportive?
The faceplate that was bad got replaced by Ewing. I am giving the SL800 another chance before I replace it. I haven't talked to my Ewing guy yet to see if they wil replace it, or I have to deal with WM directly.

You know, another weird thing about that SL800. When I press on the plastic by the fuse, the controller losses power temporarily. Probably not suppose to do that.
 
ICC's have been good - the only gripe I can see is that the controller occasionally 'thinks' it has 48 zones, even though it isn't spazzing out on actual operation. (and you have to be checking the programming to see this)
I noticed that too, didn't think anything of it until your post. I have 2 at the infamous cemetery, and they both think they're 48's when I go to set the master valve function.

Doesn't seem to affect operation, but it does make you say "hmmm".
 
Got my first WM SL in the garage right now. SL1620? 20 station for our Wednesday renovation. Gonna play and set program before install.
My biggest gripe withe the SL is that it doesn't have screw terminals. I don't like that it has the little spring loaded points where the wires push in. Especially since I was installing a pigtail as well. Makes it tough when I have fat Flintstone fingers.

I'm used to the ESP where when I hit the manual start button, I push it again to advance stations. With the SL I have to push the MANUAL button, and then the NEXT button. Pushing the MANUAL button a second time stops it from running. So unfortunately I keep pausing it. No biggie, will get used to it.

I DO like that it is indoor/outdoor. No separate ones. And because of it, it has better supply cord, as opposed to an external transformer with the dinky wires. Heavy transformers tend to pull of the wall.

I like the little tab for holding the manual on the inside of the door. I know, something minor. But I get tired of opening other doors, and the manual falls to my feet.

I like no ribbon cable. No worries of it getting bunched up or pinched.
 
Looked thru it, found nothing other than how to set a default in advanced functions. So you have to SET a default program for it to have one. Should be a standard thing, not an "option".
Has anyone ever seen a factory default program they LIKED?? I'm not sure that this would not be a plus if I was still installing systems. I can put in the battery, program a custom default set of settings and trust that someone has to KNOW the controller, features, etc. to change it. I've had commercial accounts where the mow and blow guys felt they had the right to "adjust" my controller because they had the mowing account. I would have given a lot to be able to leave a program in the controller they couldn't foul up, or that with a few simple strokes, I could reset after they "adjusted" it.

Not to mention the time you can spend re-setting a controller because the "gadget guy" homeowner just had to play with it. Your choices are (a) go through the entire programing to find all the little "tweaks" he played with, or (b) do a complete re-set and reprogram the controller. Having option (c) restore the default program you installed in the controller sounds nice.
 
SRC default is for spray heads, at 10 minutes a day. Almost worthless for small-water rotor systems, but at least something to take the edge off. Given that non-volatile memory is the rule these days, programs don't go bye-bye the way they used to. But I'd still think that something should be in place, in case some clown does a reset, and wipes out all the programming.
 
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