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#2 ·
Depends on what your doing but the truck will be grossly underpower for a tandem axle dump minimum you want is a L-10 M-11 Cummins or 3306 Cat or Series 60 Detroit diesel with 300hp.

Usually a tandem with small engines also have light driveline so you only have 38,000-40,000 rear axles and a transmission with a low torque rating and the truck has a lighter gvw.
 
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Gravel Rat said:
Depends on what your doing but the truck will be grossly underpower for a tandem axle dump minimum you want is a L-10 M-11 Cummins or 3306 Cat or Series 60 Detroit diesel with 300hp.

Usually a tandem with small engines also have light driveline so you only have 38,000-40,000 rear axles and a transmission with a low torque rating and the truck has a lighter gvw.
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This one is 275HP, I'm sure it wouldn't be a rocket. GVWR is 54,000 pounds, 14K front, 20K rears
 
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Any tandem around here with a small engine 8-9 tons is the most you want to put on the truck. One of the P+D guys here had a International tandem with a 22 foot cube box with 530 power the truck was geared so low it was a POS to drive.

I would find something else, just because it is selling cheap doesn't make it worth buying.
 
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Gravel Rat said:
Any tandem around here with a small engine 8-9 tons is the most you want to put on the truck. One of the P+D guys here had a International tandem with a 22 foot cube box with 530 power the truck was geared so low it was a POS to drive.

I would find something else, just because it is selling cheap doesn't make it worth buying.
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Remember its so flat here u have to have a ditch to make water flow!

I think that truck would be fine for his needs.
 
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The DT530 is essentially a 466 but stroked and a little bigger bore the engine is okay it doesn't have the good reputation like the 466.

Here watch this video notice he couldn't get the truck out of 4th gear with the load the only time he could grab fifth was going down hill. Truck is grossing 58,000lbs with that load.

www.youtube.com/user/ickycan#p/u/20/vR3pm03Fkgw
 
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Gravel Rat said:
The DT530 is essentially a 466 but stroked and a little bigger bore the engine is okay it doesn't have the good reputation like the 466.

Here watch this video notice he couldn't get the truck out of 4th gear with the load the only time he could grab fifth was going down hill. Truck is grossing 58,000lbs with that load.

www.youtube.com/user/ickycan#p/u/20/vR3pm03Fkgw
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that vid references a 466 from what I can tell, I'm more $$$$ conscious than speed or brand. Just an idea I was kicking around, I'd like to have a bigger truck at some point.
 
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ranger230man said:
that vid references a 466 from what I can tell, I'm more $$$$ conscious than speed or brand. Just an idea I was kicking around, I'd like to have a bigger truck at some point.
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Yeah GR is a ****** he says you need a bigger motor to go faster then he would tell you your unsafe going so fast LOL. The township I work part time for has an 80 mack r model tandem that regularly goes out with 20-22 tons on with a massive 190 HP lol
 
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Don't listen to GR. 8-9 tons max on a tandem? Give me a frickin break. I haul 10-11 on my '88 single axle 466 all the time. It's no speed demon but it does just fine and I have HILLS! That motor is fine especially down where you are in the flatlands. The 466 has a better reputation because they made a whole lot more of them. The 530 has a lot in common with the 466 - just more displacement and more power. If it looks like a good deal and smells like a good deal, don't second guess yourself. Buy it up before the next guy does. :usflag:
 
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bighornjd said:
Don't listen to GR. 8-9 tons max on a tandem? Give me a frickin break. I haul 10-11 on my '88 single axle 466 all the time. It's no speed demon but it does just fine and I have HILLS! That motor is fine especially down where you are in the flatlands. The 466 has a better reputation because they made a whole lot more of them. The 530 has a lot in common with the 466 - just more displacement and more power. If it looks like a good deal and smells like a good deal, don't second guess yourself. Buy it up before the next guy does. :usflag:
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thanks for all the info, this guy started out around $24K, now he's down to $16,500, if I wait long enough it might be free :). Here are some pics, I did notice some oil that had dripped at one time down the engine, that's the main concern. The bed is in above avg shape, some dings visible from the outside, has the air tailgate, A/C, electric tarp, I'd like to get it for $12K as it sits. I'd like to get a bigger truck, I have a lot of sand that a customer wants to get moved after he dredges in the Spring - about 3K yards, and he dredges every year. Figure after a couple years I'd have my money back for the truck, not to mention all the other jobs I'd use it for, pulling, etc.

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Looks pretty clean from what i can tell. Both my 466s are 'wet' with oil but don't really use any and down leave drips or puddles under them so I don't worry about it much. Pretty common on any older heavy truck engine that's seen a little use. Not a deal killer for the right price if you ask me. The two-way gate on the dump will be handy. Man I wish mine had that...

What for a transmission and how many miles?
 
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Even if you could get it for under 15k I'd say you made out pretty good without looking at it of course and asuming you don't have to do a lot to it to put it to work. That is LOW miles. If i had the money and needed a tandem I'd seriously consider it. A lot of people are willing to deal these days - i bet you could get it for a steal. Good luck.
 
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I've got a 97 IHC 4900 w/dt466 and it's been a workhorse. Hard to tell from the pic, but the oil leak may be coming off the high pressure oil pump. I had a leak on my 466 engine in the same spot and every time I parked there would be a few drops of oil on the ground. Took the shop about 3.5 hrs labour to replace an o-ring on the hpop, didnt charge me anything for the parts.
 
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I'd say offer him 15 grand, thats a solid truck. It's not going to be a real powerhouse but you dont have any hills to deal with so who cares. Buy it, make some money with it, sell it and upgrade. thats a good deal IMO.
 
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I have a 98 2574 16 ft dump with the cummins m11 plus 10 speed spicer 375 hp. It would really suck to only have 275hp in this truck check the frame mine is double framed and it weighs like 30k empty too heavy for a tandem. Also the dashes are prone to work intermittently in these trucks you go over a bump and it works for 5 miles and then stops working for 5 miles so it might have more miles that what the speedo says. The spicer shifts hard or at least mine does but it was probably abused it is an x gov truck.
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#19 ·
I know this is an older thread, but what did you end up doing? I am looking at an older international tandem with the dt530 in it. How has it been? What is the life expectancy of these motors before needing a rebuild.
 
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