Looking to get our new irrigation setup up and rolling for the new year. We have two bobcat skid steers (t200 and t190) and a mini skid steer (toro 332) - what would be better for irrigation installation? Putting a trencher on the bobcat or the toro? Or would yall recommend purchasing a machine devoted to trenching and backfilling - such as a ditchwitch type machine. I'm just getting started with this and wanted to know what works best for the ppl that are using them. Thanks.
New Trencher Used in Irrigation
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Looking to get our new irrigation setup up and rolling for the new year. We have two bobcat skid steers (t200 and t190) and a mini skid steer (toro 332) - what would be better for irrigation installation? Putting a trencher on the bobcat or the toro? Or would yall recommend purchasing a machine devoted to trenching and backfilling - such as a ditchwitch type machine. I'm just getting started with this and wanted to know what works best for the ppl that are using them. Thanks.
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The skids will be too big for a resi job, but the mini would work with a trenching attachment.
I use a dedicated trencher. DW RT12
I use a dedicated trencher. DW RT12
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last time we hears from you BR I think was when we were discussing your copperhead bite.
BR has the best pipe tie down on his truck I've seen on this site. No rubber straps snapping and putting a welt on your face.
BR has the best pipe tie down on his truck I've seen on this site. No rubber straps snapping and putting a welt on your face.
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buy a vibratory plow and dont deal with trenches . they make one for the Toro dingo . Best is to buy a dedicated machine like a vermeer , burkeen or case
I hang out on the heavy equipment site more, but i check in here every few days. The irrigation side of things are a little slow this time of year.
Yea I hate bungee cords. Rachet straps are a must for hauling pvc around. Plus bungee cords are not DOT approved cause they done have a load rating stamped on them. So if you get stop the dot can fine you for using bungees for strapping a load down.
Yea I hate bungee cords. Rachet straps are a must for hauling pvc around. Plus bungee cords are not DOT approved cause they done have a load rating stamped on them. So if you get stop the dot can fine you for using bungees for strapping a load down.
Depending on your soil type you cant always use a vibrator plow.
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Correct , if its rocky and super hard packed clay , trench it . If you can dig in it with a shovel get plow . Bought mine in 1982 , there has been 1 job I couldnt do , there were boulders just under the surface , but then again I couldnt have done the job with a trencher either , It needed a rock saw.
This past summer , a landscaper with a trencher was putting in sprinklers across the street from us where we were installing an irrigation system , similar size lots , we installed 10 zones using a plow in less than 2 days with 2 men , lawn looked perfect when we were done , like nothing ever happened, across the street 6 guys 4 and a half days 7 zones and the lawn looked awful . About 2 weeks later we had a 4 inch rainfall in 1 day and the trenches settled about 2 inches , 3 guys and 4 yards of dirt for them to finish the job . Their customer called me to winterize the system .
If you can use a plow buy it , time is money , it WILL save lots of time and effort.
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I too recommend a plow unless you live on rocks. Super clean installs make happy customers. In their eyes, perception is reality.
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Six guys, 4 1/2 days to put in 7 zones?!?! The norm around here would be 3-4 guys 2 days to put in 6-8 zones!!! I couldn't make a living if I used 6 guys and took 4 1/2 days. It would have to be some pretty rough terrain to justify those kind of hours.
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this was sandy soil , they didnt have a clue what they were doing , It was a bit comical to watch and a bit sad , the man hours spent , wasted
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i like the barreto, they're tough and are made in the usa (threw that in for pete)
the fellow that built the barreto tiller was a student at chico state and worked for a rental yard, the trencher, like the tiller was the first all hydraulic made.
i have a 1624 and am on my third boom rebuild, other than wear i have never had an issue and i dig in hard ground or not at all. at 100 lbs i wish it were 300 lbs heavier, if it were you couldn't stop it.
http://www.barretomfg.com/products.php
the fellow that built the barreto tiller was a student at chico state and worked for a rental yard, the trencher, like the tiller was the first all hydraulic made.
i have a 1624 and am on my third boom rebuild, other than wear i have never had an issue and i dig in hard ground or not at all. at 100 lbs i wish it were 300 lbs heavier, if it were you couldn't stop it.
http://www.barretomfg.com/products.php
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Great machine, we had our rental owner buddy buy one since we used our Trenchmaster for most improved sites and used the Barreto for places where the mini-excavator could not get to.
6-8 zones here is a day and the water better be running before you head home with 2-3 guys....
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