Hi All, I'm new to the site. I am glad I found it. My problem is, I have a prospective client that looks to have Bahaia grass growing all over his St. Augustine lawn. I am pretty sure it is Bahaia because he used to have Bahaia killed it, and planted St. Augustine. He wants the "weed" out of his lawn. The question is can I get rid of the Bahaia without killing the St. Augustine? How?
How to kill Bahia grass and not St. Augustine
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It's not hard for someone to get into the trade. The hard part is learning to do it right. The SA's who think it's so easy are one of the main reasons that the trade gets a bad name.
The very first step in pest control is to positively ID the pest. If one is guessing about the pest, then one is just a knee-jerk hose jockey. Many have come here to learn - they just post a picture to learn about the pest problem.
It took all of us time to learn, and we remember what it was like. Mr. Ric has given more input in trying to help people than most on this section of the forum. In fact, he gave this poster everything she needed, IF the problem is as she guesses. He mentioned the licensing part because the first thing some learn about licensing is when they get the fine from state. Seems the original poster just came here to find out what to load the gun with, and doesn't care about where or what to shoot at.
Jim,
My disagreements are about how an individual talks down to another.
It does not feel good when you are on the receiving end. Obviously, you don't know about that because you are very senior and very knowledgeable.
Dismissing someone as a "hack" or insinuating that someone is practicing without a license is not a friendly or proper way to communicate.
Also, I have read many questions on this forum, where non of the replies said to go back and ask your CPO. If that was the case, you should be asking everybody if they have run their question by their CPO before asking it here.
I will now officially go back into the wood work, were I am sure, you all think I belong.
I am going out to work with increased enthusiasm. I am hopping that the next customer I steal will come from someone just like you. For that I thank you all very much.
My work tip for the day: Wear short shorts and a tight fitting T-shirt. You will increase your customer base dramatically - Eat my dust guys -
My disagreements are about how an individual talks down to another.
It does not feel good when you are on the receiving end. Obviously, you don't know about that because you are very senior and very knowledgeable.
Dismissing someone as a "hack" or insinuating that someone is practicing without a license is not a friendly or proper way to communicate.
Also, I have read many questions on this forum, where non of the replies said to go back and ask your CPO. If that was the case, you should be asking everybody if they have run their question by their CPO before asking it here.
I will now officially go back into the wood work, were I am sure, you all think I belong.
I am going out to work with increased enthusiasm. I am hopping that the next customer I steal will come from someone just like you. For that I thank you all very much.
My work tip for the day: Wear short shorts and a tight fitting T-shirt. You will increase your customer base dramatically - Eat my dust guys -
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Cheryl
I am not going to tell you what those letter stand for because you had 3 whole days of training and 5 days of riding in the truck. So You should already know what those letters stand for.
If in fact you are not putting us on. You have enough Attitude for an Army. Maybe, you didn't get enough attention as a child. If your attitude here is your attitude in life then I feel sorry for you.
As far as why I ask about license and CPO. It was very apparent from your posts you have no knowledge of the green industry.
I think Ric's passion about this issue is admirable. We should all be this worked up over this subject.
I also understand that just reading labels and information from google will not give you all the answers.
Yes I am licensed by the state of North Carolina. I ask questions all the time from my Ag. Ext. office, the man at the chemical company I buy from, other Lcos, however, the best information comes from the members of LS.
Most of the info on the Internet comes from people I don't know or from the chemical companies. This is biased info.
The chemical man is going to push what will make him more money, and the Lcos in my area that are knowledgeable are few. And the 2 or 3 guys I would trust are hard to get a hold of.
The members of LS are knowledgeable and have used many of the products out there. The best information comes from first hand use. How it worked on the target pest, how it worked in this or that kind of weather, did it mix well did it stay mixed did it need to be agitated on a continual basis.
So licensed or not there is a lot of information that one needs to choose and use the right pesticides. Most of this information has to come from someone who has used it and you trust. LS is the only place you will find this information. None of us have an agenda. We are not getting paid to promote a certain product.
While I do not advocate giving out this info to unlicensed members I do think that this is a valuable resource that is too important to waste.
Maybe Sean should make the pesticide forum available only to licensed members. Fill out a form with your license and other info. That way we would not be giving out info or contributing to the unlicensed applicator.
And if someone is applying pesticides in shorts and a tight short sleeved shirt, then you are not only breaking the law but you are endangering your own health.
Sorry for the length.
I also understand that just reading labels and information from google will not give you all the answers.
Yes I am licensed by the state of North Carolina. I ask questions all the time from my Ag. Ext. office, the man at the chemical company I buy from, other Lcos, however, the best information comes from the members of LS.
Most of the info on the Internet comes from people I don't know or from the chemical companies. This is biased info.
The chemical man is going to push what will make him more money, and the Lcos in my area that are knowledgeable are few. And the 2 or 3 guys I would trust are hard to get a hold of.
The members of LS are knowledgeable and have used many of the products out there. The best information comes from first hand use. How it worked on the target pest, how it worked in this or that kind of weather, did it mix well did it stay mixed did it need to be agitated on a continual basis.
So licensed or not there is a lot of information that one needs to choose and use the right pesticides. Most of this information has to come from someone who has used it and you trust. LS is the only place you will find this information. None of us have an agenda. We are not getting paid to promote a certain product.
While I do not advocate giving out this info to unlicensed members I do think that this is a valuable resource that is too important to waste.
Maybe Sean should make the pesticide forum available only to licensed members. Fill out a form with your license and other info. That way we would not be giving out info or contributing to the unlicensed applicator.
And if someone is applying pesticides in shorts and a tight short sleeved shirt, then you are not only breaking the law but you are endangering your own health.
Sorry for the length.
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That's a good thought, Kerry, and even though it's a bit off-topic, I'd like to weigh in on that. If the P&F forum becomes restricted to only licensed PCO's, how will the unlearned be ed-oo-cated? I have to say that the emphasis placed on being licensed that I found in this forum played a big part in my becoming a licensed PCO.
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Yaaaa! Ric and all his macho buddies are just jealous because they cannot use sex appeal to sell whatever to put on a lawn. It doesn't matter whether you are licensed or legal, whether you are being intelligent or environically resonsible.
You can make a killing applying baby powder to lawns if you show enough T & A!
To heck with PPE specs. payup
You can make a killing applying baby powder to lawns if you show enough T & A!
To heck with PPE specs. payup
You can make a killing applying baby powder to lawns if you show enough T & A! To heck with PPE specs.
I think this is why it should be off limits to non licensed people. This is just irresponsible. God frobid you ever find out the hard way why the ppe is needed.
With some of the chemicals I use you wouldnt have that T & A for long.
I think this is why it should be off limits to non licensed people. This is just irresponsible. God frobid you ever find out the hard way why the ppe is needed.
With some of the chemicals I use you wouldnt have that T & A for long.
Split the forum into 2 . One for licensed LCO's and one for non-licensed.
At least in the non licensed forum their questions could be asked and answered as long as it does not give advice as to what chemical to use or how much.
In North Carolina I cannot make recommendations to others unless they are licensed or my customer.
At least in the non licensed forum their questions could be asked and answered as long as it does not give advice as to what chemical to use or how much.
In North Carolina I cannot make recommendations to others unless they are licensed or my customer.
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5'6" and 125 lbs I will turn 63 in just two weeks. I can still do cart wheels and walk on my hands. The fact is I have many widows as customers, some quite young. I am not the least bit ashamed to wear a bathing suite in public. Do a search in the off topic form and find the picture of me on top of a Alligator. Oops time change the oxygen bottle and e-mail a friend from the Great War (WW I).
KerryB
Splitting the forum into a CPO section has Its advantages and advantages. Freedom of the written word is an American Ideal. This forum would have to be a members only and I don't think that would fly. The Real answer to the problem is to make all pesticides RUP. The agi lobby is the largest and Chem Mfg are part of that lobby. The almighty dollar rules.
I'll always have the last laugh, cause I got the T & A. Ask your mom, or your significant other (and I am not talking about Ric) T & A always wins.
I even do pest control for a guys that do pest control, and I love every minute of it. ......... As a matter of fact I might make that my signature here.
I bet if you took a look at my T & A, you too would be signing up for my special 20 min. $89 bi(monthly) service. BTW woman love me too cause I understand their needs, and I am not in a big hurry to get to my next job (got to make that $3 an hour big money mentality). Why would I be.
Anyway, love to join the circle jerk you girls are doing here, but I got to finish my nails, and get out there by 10 to keep my customers happy (and drooling).
Ta. Ta.
I even do pest control for a guys that do pest control, and I love every minute of it. ......... As a matter of fact I might make that my signature here.
I bet if you took a look at my T & A, you too would be signing up for my special 20 min. $89 bi(monthly) service. BTW woman love me too cause I understand their needs, and I am not in a big hurry to get to my next job (got to make that $3 an hour big money mentality). Why would I be.
Anyway, love to join the circle jerk you girls are doing here, but I got to finish my nails, and get out there by 10 to keep my customers happy (and drooling).
Ta. Ta.
Cheryl I dont believe that you fully understand what you are working with.
Some of the chemicals you use are caustic and can melt the skin right off of your precious T&A. Others can cause permanent blindness, respiratory problems, birth defects or even making it so you cannot get pregnant at all.
Ric, it would not have to be a members only per say. You would just have to provide Sean with your license.
In my state giving advise as to what chemical and how much to an unlicensed applicator is in violation of the pesticide law.
Cheryl has the wrong idea. She thinks that every comment against her is because she is a woman. That is far from the truth. We have many females around here that apply pesticides. But the difference is that they do it safely and legally.
Some of the chemicals you use are caustic and can melt the skin right off of your precious T&A. Others can cause permanent blindness, respiratory problems, birth defects or even making it so you cannot get pregnant at all.
Ric, it would not have to be a members only per say. You would just have to provide Sean with your license.
In my state giving advise as to what chemical and how much to an unlicensed applicator is in violation of the pesticide law.
Cheryl has the wrong idea. She thinks that every comment against her is because she is a woman. That is far from the truth. We have many females around here that apply pesticides. But the difference is that they do it safely and legally.
Hey Girls,
Just getting back on the computer. Been out on the boat doing a little cruising.
First, It is very difficult to spray without an I.D card (required in Florida). You cant get an I.D. card unless a CPO requests it for you. You can probably spray your friends and family, and maybe other people (the dumb ones) at night. But, if you are trying to support yourself and family, forget it. Too many people watching (Terminix is one of them). The inspectors I know say most of the time they are catching the techs (with I.D. cards) and CPOs that are breaking the law.
As for me working in "short shorts"; I do use my T & A as much as I can, but within the letter of the law; I also never said I wore then to spray lawns.
Anyway, Gotta go. Late for church. Many troubled souls need pest control.
Ta. Ta.
P.S. Don't worry about me. Worry about the techs that drink all night, and spray all day.
Just getting back on the computer. Been out on the boat doing a little cruising.
First, It is very difficult to spray without an I.D card (required in Florida). You cant get an I.D. card unless a CPO requests it for you. You can probably spray your friends and family, and maybe other people (the dumb ones) at night. But, if you are trying to support yourself and family, forget it. Too many people watching (Terminix is one of them). The inspectors I know say most of the time they are catching the techs (with I.D. cards) and CPOs that are breaking the law.
As for me working in "short shorts"; I do use my T & A as much as I can, but within the letter of the law; I also never said I wore then to spray lawns.
Anyway, Gotta go. Late for church. Many troubled souls need pest control.
Ta. Ta.
P.S. Don't worry about me. Worry about the techs that drink all night, and spray all day.
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May I be the first to welcome the new Cheryl to Lawsuit. Here we Exchange Information and Ideas. We don't always agree. But we all learn. I can only wish that you learn as much as I have here at LS. Please feel free to asks or answers any question you want. The only dumb question is the one not asked.
Cheryl you are right about Florida BEPC Inspectors, their real job is to keep Licensed Companies in line. However that takes up most of their time and so they don't go after the illegals like they should. Since my background is a degree in Criminal Justice and 21 years in a branch of law enforcement now retired, I am zealous about the Law.
PS Does T & A stand for Talent & Ambition??
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