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What should I charge for landscape fabric installation? By the ft² or by linear ft? Seems ft² makes more sense but how much? Guessing $.25 at the minimum per ft². Trying to learn all aspects s of this s business. Thanks for all the help guys and come on spring...lol
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What's the cost to you? How long to install? What's your hourly rate? If you have to cut in around a single bush it's easy. A hundred bushes, not so much. Landscape fabric around here is a touchy subject, mainly because long term, it doesn't work unless you do all the work you would do normally to keep a bed weed free. If the customer/job requires it, aims for the moon. Bermuda doesn't recognize it as a weed control tool and will grow straight through it.
 
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What's the cost to you? How long to install? What's your hourly rate? If you have to cut in around a single bush it's easy. A hundred bushes, not so much. Landscape fabric around here is a touchy subject, mainly because long term, it doesn't work unless you do all the work you would do normally to keep a bed weed free. If the customer/job requires it, aims for the moon. Bermuda doesn't recognize it as a weed control tool and will grow straight through it.
I thought about just putting 3 inches of mulch and sparay it routinely to prevent the weeds.
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Mulch, preemergent, over the top or round up are all you need to keep the weeds at bay.
 
Do Not waste your time and your customers money on landscape fabric. This material is useless since the weed seed will germinate on top of the fabric and your customer will hold you responsible. Maintain a 3" depth of mulch and treat as necessary with pre/post emergent applications, if of course your licensed in the state of Florida. Otherwise hirer a licensed PCO to take care of this matter for you.
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If you install it, what do you charge?
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I don't install it because it doesn't work long term. That is how I sell NOT doing it to the customer. AND, I tell them how expensive it is. I've never installed it in close to 20yrs of business.
 
It depends on what fabric you are using. If you are using a 100 ft roll of $5 weed fabric, then no its not going to work. If you use a good commercial grade fabric it will work, and it is worth putting down. It will not prevent weeds entirely but it does help. In 25 years of business I have never NOT installed fabric in a new landscape.

As for what to charge, there are too many variables for you to have a set per area charge. Every area will be different. Figure out you material cost. Figure how long it will take you to install, and then charge accordingly.
 
It depends on what fabric you are using. If you are using a 100 ft roll of $5 weed fabric, then no its not going to work. If you use a good commercial grade fabric it will work, and it is worth putting down. It will not prevent weeds entirely but it does help. In 25 years of business I have never NOT installed fabric in a new landscape.

As for what to charge, there are too many variables for you to have a set per area charge. Every area will be different. Figure out you material cost. Figure how long it will take you to install, and then charge accordingly.
Since I believe you have not installed landscape fabric in Florida and the OP is from Florida your opinion from PA. may work fine in your state.
It does not work in Florida. Only the box stores sell this product to customers that are from another state or have no idea what to expect when the weeds start growing on top of the fabric, which they always will do if not right away over time. If the OP was to incorporate a pre/post emergent program in conjunction with using weed barrier fabric the degree of success may increase, however I suspect the customer would not want the additional expense.
I strongly recommend to not waste your customers money and waste your time and possibly damage your reputation by using this product. Loose loose across the board.
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Landscape material, even the most effective kind, was developed for the nursery industry. How do you keep weeds from growing between 5000 Delaware azaleas that have to be watered? Landscape fabric is the answer. Do they cover it with mulch? No. Why? Mulch turns to dirt which is a good medium for weed seed germination. Nothing prevents weeds entirely, especially if it's covered in organic material that aids in seed germination. What I "love" is redoing a bed that has had fabric put down and it's all full of roots and/or it's degraded so it comes apart in your hands and you're picking little pieces of black junk for days depending on the bed size. The fact that these companies guarantee no weeds for up to 20 yrs (in some instances) is just pure marketing BS. No LCO will guarantee weed free beds for 20 yrs (you'd be insane) using the 20 yr fabric, so why use it? You know why, it ads to the bottom line.
 
Rock = Fabric. $150 for 6' x 150' Weeds will still germinate in the rock but wont grow through for a long while. at least here in IL where I am. The fabric is pretty heavy duty and keeps rock from settling in the soil to disappear.

Mulch = Never. its gonna decompose on top of the fabric, Mulch is supposed to be kept up with and doing so keeps the soil nice for plants.
 
there are expensive fabrics that will work 20 years or more but most times the customer isn't willing to pay that price.

i always put down fabric as well as keep it mulched and sprayed. any fabric will help reduce the amount of weeds. weeds can grow in mulch. really it's better to use rocks for long term and good fabric. rocks never need to be replaced year after year. another option is pine straw at least where i live it is.

charge a little more than the fabric costs and then add labor rate on top of that. also add any gas money spent going to pick up the fabric from the landcape supply store.
 
2 things I recommend against are rocks and fabric/plastic. At some point the homeowner or the person doing the work will regret it.

Learn proper management and you and your customers will be better off in the long run.
 
2 things I recommend against are rocks and fabric/plastic. At some point the homeowner or the person doing the work will regret it.

Learn proper management and you and your customers will be better off in the long run.
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Thank you all. I've installed it before at customers request and it took longer than I predicted to cut around all the plants. Plus the weeds ended up growing around the edges and as someone said earlier, the seeds germinated on top and grew roots down into the mulch. On established areas I plan on applying 3-4 of mulch and saving the client money and applying the post ergent when necessary. Thanks again. You guys are awesome.
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2 things I recommend against are rocks and fabric/plastic. At some point the homeowner or the person doing the work will regret it.

Learn proper management and you and your customers will be better off in the long run.
i disagree.

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care to explain or just like to be mysterious? :laugh:

neither of you gave any reason not to do it. why is that? please explain why it's bad to use rocks or fabric.

i will however say that if plants are already there then don't mess with fabric. just use mulch.

if it's a new bed that is the time to use fabric since no plants are in the way and you can cut the holes where you need them easily.

there was fabric installed at my house before i moved in. i've been here 10 years and not a single weed has grown through the fabric since i've lived here. i think it works if it's done right.
 
What should I charge for landscape fabric installation? By the ft² or by linear ft? Seems ft² makes more sense but how much? Guessing $.25 at the minimum per ft². Trying to learn all aspects s of this s business. Thanks for all the help guys and come on spring...lol
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First thing you should try and figure out is how much it costs you per square foot.
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