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Puppy, you mentioned the integrated brakes. While in theory its a great thing but unfortunately, they fail and need constant adjustment. They were once replaced on mine (the entire drum on both sided) and the mechanic failed to tighten one side down and it caused the keyway to chip out the axle. I was blamed for that but luckily for me, since I'd gotten to know the warranty guy here so well from trying to fix the deck, he ok'ed the free replacement of the wheel motor.
Good result in the end although it never did run straight after that but that was all caused by your fantastically designed park brake!
You see, with the weight of the machine being towed around on a trailer, any movement wears out the brakes. Even strapping the machine down wasnt enough, they always needed adjustment after a couple of weeks or months. If they needed adjustment they were getting worn and would need replacement.
Since I assume you rarely put your machine on a trailer its something you may not ever have a problem with!
You are who always comes to mind when he starts bragging on the SZ this and that. No one here knows better than you that anything man made can fail, and that includes the SZ's. The brakes on the JD I have are one thing I love about it and would hate to give up. They every bit as easy to use as the Hustler's if you have any coordination at all, and the are wet disk brakes, never need adjusting, and would take more use than a normal Z will ever see to wear out.
 
Puppy, you mentioned the integrated brakes. While in theory its a great thing but unfortunately, they fail and need constant adjustment. They were once replaced on mine (the entire drum on both sided) and the mechanic failed to tighten one side down and it caused the keyway to chip out the axle. I was blamed for that but luckily for me, since I'd gotten to know the warranty guy here so well from trying to fix the deck, he ok'ed the free replacement of the wheel motor.
Good result in the end although it never did run straight after that but that was all caused by your fantastically designed park brake!
You see, with the weight of the machine being towed around on a trailer, any movement wears out the brakes. Even strapping the machine down wasnt enough, they always needed adjustment after a couple of weeks or months. If they needed adjustment they were getting worn and would need replacement.
Since I assume you rarely put your machine on a trailer its something you may not ever have a problem with!
After you had your brake problem I checked with a couple of dealers along with Hustler, both dealers along with one of their head mechanics had not seen enough brake problems to honestly remember. Hustler was aware of the problem as you explained but said the incident rate was virtually nonexistent based on warranty claims. Hustler of course made the statement there would need to be considerable movement in repeated fashion before brake damage could occur.

I have spoken with several commercial cutters that trailer numerous Hustler Super Z mowers daily, and other than adjusting the brakes they've had zero problems.

I just got off the phone with a commercial cutter I know that has owned and operated Hustler Super Z mowers for years, kept 5 to 7 mowers averaging around 800 hrs. per mower each season mowing nothing but large commercial properties. He has trailered his mowers thousands of miles and never once had a brake failure on the integrated brake system. What this is saying is he has trailered his Super Z mowers and cut more hours per year than probably several people lumped together posting in this forum. How many people would you need to put together to mow 4500+ hrs. per year, people that mow that number of hours have no time to post on LawnSite, he had just walked in from cutting his own grass when I spoke with him.

I also asked him if he ever had clumping problems with his 60" VX4 decks, of which he said, "I've never had cut problems, if so I would never have owned as many as I have." This is nothing more than the difference in areas being cut, and I've seen his hired help cutting in wet, raining conditions.

I also found this interesting, at the beginning of this cutting season he bought 7 Bobcat Predator-Pros and ProCat mowers. I asked him why the change after so many years with Hustler, he said, "sometimes after so long a man just wants to change colors, and they made me a deal I could not turn down. I saved $28,000 and the Bobcats are doing the same job the Hustlers were and I can actually slow my help down, they want to mow at whatever speed the mower will run and these mowers are fast enough to be productive but not excessively fast like the Super Zs."

Don't concern yourself about getting involved, you are doing no more than giving your opinion based on your experience, whereas I am giving my opinion based on my experience and information gathered from many different sources of experience.
 
How many hours per year a person mows has relatively little to do with how much his equipment is trailered. A guy here with 500 hours per year run time that mows a lot of smaller lots will gain as much or more time trailering as a guy who mows large commercial lots and stays in one place much longer.

How many posts a person has time to make here has more to do with the ease of accessibility from mobile devices and what they like to do in their off time than anything else.
 
Here is how a hustler performs here lol not bashing Mick just down here in south they don't cut for crap. Majority of these crap cuts which is 98% of the LCO's here are operators and crap upkeep of machines and no knowledge of what they are doing just "all 4 the money"

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My last cut today with 2 bad spindles from this drought and dust bowl 3weeks now "John Deere"

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Here is how a hustler performs here lol not bashing Mick just down here in south they don't cut for crap. Majority of these crap cuts which is 98% of the LCO's here are operators and crap upkeep of machines and no knowledge of what they are doing just "all 4 the money"

My last cut today with 2 bad spindles from this drought and dust bowl 3weeks now "John Deere"
OCDC may be the cause of your condition...if you don't mow for money, what do you mow for? The last cut you are bragging on looks like nothing different than any decent mower would provide in burnt up grass, there certainly is nothing special looking about the cut, but the wheel tracks do look nice.
 
OCDC may be the cause of your condition...if you don't mow for money, what do you mow for? The last cut you are bragging on looks like nothing different than any decent mower would provide in burnt up grass, there certainly is nothing special looking about the cut, but the wheel tracks do look nice.
Thanks for you're support nothing less expected from you puppy just the bottom of the gutter kind of guy you are. That is any condition where my wheels hit the ground dry, wet, rain, soaked she stripes get over yourself and tend your farm on Farmville man lmao
 
Thanks for you're support nothing less expected from you puppy just the bottom of the gutter kind of guy you are. That is any condition where my wheels hit the ground dry, wet, rain, soaked she stripes get over yourself and tend your farm on Farmville man lmao
Conditions are no reason for one, much less [two] spindles to go out on any mower with probably less than 100 hrs. The Scag owners I know have never mentioned spindle problems, and I know a lady that owns a lawn maintenance company that has put 3000 hrs. on TT's with no spindle problems. She loves her Scags, and tells me when selling with high hours they still hold their value very well, she says better than other top-end mowers with equal hours.

How many hours are on the spindles, they will be replaced under warranty so there will be nothing more than the aggravation of delivering and picking up the mower for repair? If you bought a mower from my dealer he would pick it up and deliver it back to you free of charge for as long as you own the mower.
 
worthless repeat blabber above barfs
 
worthless repeat blabber above barfs
Now see, I was trying to make decent conversation with you for the fact of wanting to know how many hours you have on the spindles that went out, and all you can do is come up with some childish phrase...So sorry you aren't willing to put forth the effort to act like a grown-up, this can cover what Markey boy had to say as well!
 
I'd rather eat my farts than convo with you puppypads

Put that in your sig Ridin lmao
 
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