I had been awaiting to see this machine in real life and finally got to demo one. The cab is one of the main upgrades. It shares much the same IPAD type console as the new CASE wheel loaders. It is outstanding. You can pick the EH setting you like that are preprogrammed or build your own. Love that feature. Much more information, easily available. Very well thought out interior. Speed sensors in the drives to make control easier. My only complaint is that the left trigger activated the horn, while the two speed is button activated. I would have preferred those switched since I am on the gas a lot more than using the horn. The breakout on the machine incredibly strong. I was using an 84" extended lip bucket with a backsplash guard (bucket from 95XT) holds about 7/8 yard heaped. The machine would flip the breakout the bucket so easy, that I had to slow down on the tilt cylinder to keep from throwing the material up against the cab. CASE rates its breakout at around 9100 pounds and it felt very much that powerful. I moved placed and compacted the 450cy of material in 5 hours. The machine is certainly impressive.
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I was referencing the internal air filter. My 440 had an aspirator as well and it was a great feature. I think that they ran out of room for one now with all the extra EPA stuff they have to cram in those small engine compartments. I would imagine that they have started the factory back up by now. I would have to think that your dealer should have one. They have four of them here. If they didn't order them early, they may have to wait for the previous orders are filled before your dealer gets theirs.
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Got a chance to demo a 370B this weekend, did a subgrade & spread some black dirt. You are going to disown me, did not like it. At all. The controls are not horrible but annoy me, it does get jerky sometimes. Thought the front visibility was awful, very hard to see corners of the bucket. Especially the right side. Could not stay in the seat, slid around as the side I was running had a slope. Didn't like the ergonomics. Overall just not impressed, so disappointed.
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That's too bad you didn't like it. I am on the other side of that. Been really happy with the 450. The front visibility to the right isn't as clear as I would like it but I am used to it and frankly don't notice any more. I really like the ergonomics, the handles are much more comfortable. I think that it takes time to get used to the layout, how many hours did you spend in it?
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Put almost 7 hours on it between 2 days. In it's defense, the site was horrible. Sloping with shale chunks so the ride seems way worse than it is. But the seat was an issue, sliding out of it. Was going to adjust the control position but the knots were so tight couldn't loosen them. The controls seemed high & straight upright, would like a little angle to them. Didn't care for the ride control trigger compared to the Series 3. The front visibility is bad, for a gen 2 machine that should have been addressed. The cab is big enough, they probably could pull off a roll up door.
The controls were better than the Alphas but still not comfortable to me. For the last 4 years have been running ISO ASV so very use to that. Ran this in ISO as I've gone to the darkside away from H pattern. Used the 78" Virnig grading bucket, wanted to compare to the 440. Was expecting the breakout to be better. Maybe I was expecting too much out of it?
The controls were better than the Alphas but still not comfortable to me. For the last 4 years have been running ISO ASV so very use to that. Ran this in ISO as I've gone to the darkside away from H pattern. Used the 78" Virnig grading bucket, wanted to compare to the 440. Was expecting the breakout to be better. Maybe I was expecting too much out of it?
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How did you have the EH set? A buddy just bought a 370B and I ran it as I had never run one yet. It had an 84" bucket on it and it was able to snap the bucket out of a bank of material easily. How you have the EH set will matter on how fast that happens, if it is set to a slow speed it will give the impression that it is slow to break out. It doesn't breakout like the 450, but I thought it was still pretty powerful. The wiper motor does impact the view on the right side. It was an issue at first on my first Alpha, but I have adjusted my viewing position. I like the ride control button, it was two speed that I had to adjust to. The ergonomics to control the handle position is adjustable. You can rotate it down so that it is not so straight up and down. I do wish they had made that easier to do, the knobs are hard to break free. I think the EH is very dialed in, and really like the ability to adjust it exactly to how you want it to run. The factory settings are pretty good, but going into the menu you set them yourself, which is what I did. The seat issue is interesting, never had that issue. Maybe you were at such an angle you need to use the seat belt? Too bad you didn't like it.
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Was thinking about it today & was working over what I disliked so much & why I was so negative. One thing is I have almost zero time even going back to the Alphas. Think the last time I ran one was in Tomahawk '14? That could be part of why it was so alien to me. I will say the EH was way better, you could flip dirt back. I did not try changing the controls, they showed me but didn't quite remember so never attempted changing. So that may not be fair. I kinda don't 'get' the customization stuff, on the 440 or even ASV's I just run them. I am real bad about programming stuff, my truck clocks stay regular time all year for an example. On the control positions think that would have helped but didn't want to reef on a brand new machine. On the seat, I was wearing Truework shorts, maybe they are slippery? Or was the seat so new it didn't have the buttprint wore in? Do think the visibility was something that bothered me. Something that was interesting to me, was the vertical lift. Doesn't have any reach compared to radial machines, that was something I never noticed. The CTL ride is way different that MTL ride also.
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