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Looking at new trucks, why get the 3/4 ton when the 1/2 does the same work

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rclawn said:
Luckily I didn't owe a lot on the f150 and the dealer was willing to work with me a lot on the trade, or I would have lost my shirt. Half tons don't hold their value like the larger trucks do. Especially if you are an idiot and get a Lariat like I did
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huh, odd.... we don't have the same experience with that here....
people sell trucks for prices that make you wonder if theres a pallet of gold bars in the bed!
 
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#27 ·
I can tell you from first hand experience that the 150 doesn't hold up.

58xxx miles on mine, 42xxx of that with a trailer on the bumper. Rear end is whining and motor is burning oil. No where near the towing capacity, but the amount of use has killed it.

Currently looking at 250's and they're insanely priced. Dodge and Chevy are even higher.

No way Id buy a first year motor from ford. Especially when the 6.7 diesel is the most reliable motor every built (next to a 5.9 Cummins)
 
#28 ·
Yea, you’re going to pay more for a 3/4 or 1 ton but it’s worth every penny. Plus you get a longer warranty I had 100k on the ram, but I voided it early when I did the delete and tune. Also replaced the head bolts with studs like they do on the ford 6.0’s. You can buy a 10-15 year old diesel with confidence, I just wanted a new one because it’s my DD and I was able to get a good trade in on my other truck with a low rate on the remaining balance. It’s paid off now
 
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I won't buy a RAM. I'm really a chevy guy, but will go to Ford if the price is right. Ram isn't for me, I've had too many Chevy's go above and beyond so I tend to stick with what works. I've run 3 half tons over 200k miles and they didn't require much.
 
#30 ·
If you're going to plow I strongly recommend the 3/4 ton with the plow prep package unless you're going to just put a light-duty 8 foot straight blade on it. For a commercial duty 8.5 foot plow or V plow (my choice) you want the HD front axle.
 
#31 ·
I love my half ton, because it's a daily driver that occasionally tows and hauls. I wouldn't know about it's durability for heavy use, as I wouldn't use it for that. I do know people that have used them for that and they never hold up. It's always something.

If you're regularly towing equipment and going to plow, 3/4 all the way every day.
 
#33 ·
Company I used to work for has 3 trucks and 2 Van's all over 250k, 2 of which are over 300k. They were around the rounded body style years before they went with the modern sharp edges every where. They have bought 3 other chevys recently and all of them were traded between 100k and 150k. Maybe my friend got lemons but seem the newer chevys got crappier electronics. Also notice little mechanical issues more frequently and sensor problems. Lots of folks supposedly had issues with the rounded chevys transmissions which I think was the 4l60e but we never did. Hauled 13k on one of the 1500s and 20k 8 hours on the 2500. Stupid trucks wouldn't die. Most of them had original power train with those miles. Was a die hard Chevy guy but I don't think they are what they used to be.

They are dealing with Chevy crap at the moment but do have one Toyota for light stuff which is working well. My tundra does well so far but have noticed the 1500s go thru brakes alot faster than 2500s. Even with properly set up trailer brakes. When the tundra hits 250k I'll probably get a Cummins 1 ton dodge.

Much of any dump trailers or plow I'd say just get a 1 ton...
 
#34 ·
rippinryno said:
I'm looking to add a truck to the company. Am I mistaken or are all these new half tons pulling ridiculous tow numbers?

The ford f150 have a higher tow rating than the Chevy 2500HD I'm looking at, what is going on here?

I want a stout truck so that my business can grow, but now wondering if a half ton will do the same thing I need it to.

I'm only looking at gassers, and I'll be towing a dump trailer and maybe putting a plow on some time down the road, but aside from the frame girth, it looks like these half tons these days can haul and tow the same or more than 3/4 ton gasser.
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To the OP- are you looking at purchasing brand new? I noticed others chimed in about a plow on the front end.... you never mentioned that unless I missed something. Your feelings on Ram are exactly the same as my feelings on Fords. Won't ever own one period. Nothing against the people that drive them, and nothing against the product itself, just won't own one nuff said. Now, yes I believe the newest 1/2 tons have amazing tow capability compared a 2002 year model 1/2 ton, but the rear suspension still isn't any heavier duty. In my experience all the new 1/2 tons are still just 1/2 tons! Sure, they have amazing engine/transmission combinations to offer, but remember your trucks braking and suspension capabilities. Personally I'm a sucker for all Chevy preferably GMC trucks.... but having ran a 2014, a 2015, and now a 2018 Ram 1500 with Ecodiesel and Hemi engines, I will agree with Motor Trend about it being a better truck than Ford or GMC. The biggest difference is the Rams all have an amazing suspension setup that literally rides like a Lexus in stock trim (with no trailer). NOW, since you aren't interested in Ram, I won't continue.... but... if you're considering 1/2 ton over 3/4ton, please go test drive the new Duramax 3.0L 1/2 ton in either Chevy or GMC with that awesome 10speed and give us some honest feedback. Whew... you can see I enjoy vehicles. Done.
 
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Shindaiwa_operator said:
To the OP- are you looking at purchasing brand new? I noticed others chimed in about a plow on the front end.... you never mentioned that unless I missed something. Your feelings on Ram are exactly the same as my feelings on Fords. Won't ever own one period. Nothing against the people that drive them, and nothing against the product itself, just won't own one nuff said. Now, yes I believe the newest 1/2 tons have amazing tow capability compared a 2002 year model 1/2 ton, but the rear suspension still isn't any heavier duty. In my experience all the new 1/2 tons are still just 1/2 tons! Sure, they have amazing engine/transmission combinations to offer, but remember your trucks braking and suspension capabilities. Personally I'm a sucker for all Chevy preferably GMC trucks.... but having ran a 2014, a 2015, and now a 2018 Ram 1500 with Ecodiesel and Hemi engines, I will agree with Motor Trend about it being a better truck than Ford or GMC. The biggest difference is the Rams all have an amazing suspension setup that literally rides like a Lexus in stock trim (with no trailer). NOW, since you aren't interested in Ram, I won't continue.... but... if you're considering 1/2 ton over 3/4ton, please go test drive the new Duramax 3.0L 1/2 ton in either Chevy or GMC with that awesome 10speed and give us some honest feedback. Whew... you can see I enjoy vehicles. Done.
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Actually a "half ton" truck means it's payload capacity is 1,000 pounds
The 2021 f150s payload is 1750 to 2400
Depending on build specs

So it's components technically make it more than a 3/4 ton to more than a 1 ton.

People really need to drop the 1/2 ton , 3/4, 1 ton designations...those things don't mean what you think they mean anymore

Modern "half tons" far exceed what 3/4 tons used to be
They're not half tons anymore
 
#37 ·
TPendagast said:
Actually a "half ton" truck means it's payload capacity is 1,000 pounds
The 2021 f150s payload is 1750 to 2400
Depending on build specs

So it's components technically make it more than a 3/4 ton to more than a 1 ton.

People really need to drop the 1/2 ton , 3/4, 1 ton designations...those things don't mean what you think they mean anymore

Modern "half tons" far exceed what 3/4 tons used to be
They're not half tons anymore
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Ya , I don't know much about fords. Throw 2500lbs in back of a ram 1500 with coil springs and I can basically guarantee it'll be on its stops. My only point was that 3/4 ton trucks handle massive payloads and tongue heavy trailers better than 1/2 tons.. or like you say- 150 series. I still think of them as 1500s since I run GM and Ram...
 
#39 ·
Don’t even get me started on diesel vs gas. I’ll save that for another thread. But especially if you are a single guy in his 20’s you should go for diesel. Most girls around 22-30 are impressed by such vehicles. And a hell of a lot more torque. And fuel economy- my 1 ton drw cummins gets the same as my half ton eco boost f150 did (towing, at least). And you can drive it for an extra couple hundred thousand over gas
 
#40 ·
rclawn said:
Don't even get me started on diesel vs gas. I'll save that for another thread. But especially if you are a single guy in his 20's you should go for diesel. Most girls around 22-30 are impressed by such vehicles. And a hell of a lot more torque. And fuel economy- my 1 ton drw cummins gets the same as my half ton eco boost f150 did (towing, at least). And you can drive it for an extra couple hundred thousand over gas
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You'd have to be towing heavy every day to come out ahead with a diesel. For occasional and fairly light duty towing at that gas burner all the way. Everything about the diesel included fuel cost way more.
 
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