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2 Cycle Engine Oil : Echo Red Armor verses Echo Power Blend Gold

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I've been using Echo Powner Blend Gold 2 cycle oil in my Echo string trimmers as long as I can remember. Today before placing an order for more, I did some research and discovered that the Echo Red Armor is far superior in any aspects.

I've enclosed a 38 minute webinar that explains everything about 2 Stroke engine oil. I didn't realize how critical the quality of the oil is to the longevity and daily performance of the engine.

Jason Wilk's (ECHO) interview from the 2018 Spring Into Action Webinar hosted live Saturday, March 24th! His topic talked about understanding everything about 2-stroke oil!

From this day forward I will be using Red Armor.

 
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I just bought some with my new t262. I'm almost done with my last orange stihl mix then I'm switching over.

Most everything I've read on here and everywhere else speaks nothing but praise about it. Thumbs Up
 
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Fatwood said:
Husqvarna XP+ clean burning and hardly any scent. Did I make it in before the Amsoil fanboys?
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I do like the Idea of not smelling like 2cy. exhaust if I just want to blow off my drive once in a while. :nod:

Stihl 2 cycle oil stinks.

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Forgot to say the Red Armor burns my eyes.
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Maybe that's how you know it's working. :D
 
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Integrity-LC said:
Ive heard good things about the Red Armor. I was going to try it out when I recently moved away from the Stihl HP Ultra because I hated the smell but decided to give Amsoil a try first. So far its been great.
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Can you send a pic or link to the exact Amsoil 2 Cycle oil you're using?

BTW, I've used Amsoil for years in vehicles. The Amsoil I use is changed at 25,000 mile intervals. I have a 2005 Ford Freestyle with 410,000 miles that's never had any oil except Amsoil.
 
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JLH52 said:
Can you send a pic or link to the exact Amsoil 2 Cycle oil you're using?

BTW, I've used Amsoil for years in vehicles. The Amsoil I use is changed at 25,000 mile intervals. I have a 2005 Ford Freestyle with 410,000 miles that's never had any oil except Amsoil.
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This is what I have.
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For the record, Im not an Amsoil fanboy and I am not running it at 100:1 like they recommend, however it has been clean burning and the smell is not obnoxious. Its also lowered the amount of crap that comes out of the exhaust of my Stihl KM94, that thing spits crud all over from the muffler.
 
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Integrity-LC said:
For the record, Im not an Amsoil fanboy and I am not running it at 100:1 like they recommend, however it has been clean burning and the smell is not obnoxious. Its also lowered the amount of crap that comes out of the exhaust of my Stihl KM94, that thing spits crud all over from the muffler.
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I just went to Amsoil site and read data sheet with all specs about this oil. They recommend 1.3 oz of oil per gallon of gas for a 100 : I ratio.

The Echo ratio uses 2.6 oz for a 50 : 1 ratio.

If you're not running the 100 : 1, exactly how are you mixing?
 
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JLH52 said:
I just went to Amsoil site and read data sheet with all specs about this oil. They recommend 1.3 oz of oil per gallon of gas for a 100 : I ratio.

The Echo ratio uses 2.6 oz for a 50 : 1 ratio.

If you're not running the 100 : 1, exactly how are you mixing?
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Im running a 70:1 ratio.
 
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JLH52 said:
I just went to Amsoil site and read data sheet with all specs about this oil. They recommend 1.3 oz of oil per gallon of gas for a 100 : I ratio.

The Echo ratio uses 2.6 oz for a 50 : 1 ratio.

If you're not running the 100 : 1, exactly how are you mixing?
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I'm running probably arpund a 50-60:1. I small bottle for about 1.5 gallons. I use 2 gallons of mix probably every 2 months, so very little compared to most.
 
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JLH52 said:
How do you calculate a 70 :1 ratio? Why do you use this ratio instead of 100: 1?
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I use a Ratio Rite measuring cup. I selected 70:1 as a good middle ground between 50:1 and 100:1, as stated earlier Im not comfortable putting 100:1 in my equipment. Others run it fine Im sure but not for me for now at least.

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Integrity-LC said:
I use a Ratio Rite measuring cup. I selected 70:1 as a good middle ground between 50:1 and 100:1, as stated earlier Im not comfortable putting 100:1 in my equipment. Others run it fine Im sure but not for me for now at least.

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When increasing ratio from 50:1 to 70:1, did that effect the carb setting causing implement to run richer or leaner?

Some have said increasing oil to gas ratio might require carb adjustment on some trimmers or chainsaws. This would depend on factory settings and altitude.
 
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