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Hey Guys/Gals,

I have a question regarding blanket applications. Currently our first two applications for the season consist of a fertilizer with Dimension. We spot treat for weeds during both applications. Generally we don't do a blanket application of herbicide. If you would give me some insight on what you're program consists of.

Thank you for your time! -Chris
 
Prodiamine for crabgrass control.
This followed by blanket weed control 5 weeks later with liquid fertilizer.
Actually, any new customer with significant dandelions--should probably be treated immediately with blanket weed control, along with crabgrass control. We might lose a bit of money on this--but it increases customer satisfaction...skid sprayer, backpack or a second trip.
We included broadleaf blanket weed control in the second application--and in fall. Of course--there is a limit of two per year 2,4-D so you probably have to use a non-2,4-d product like Lesco Eliminate for one of those aps.
And the second ap should be timed to stop the summer annuals if possible.
And the fall blanket weed control in mid September to late April--is designed to kill next years dandelions and winter annuals like chickweed.
 
I think this rule has been around for a while, 5 to 10 years.
I guess spot spray is not regulated.



"Limitations on broadcast treatments for ornamental turfgrass and sod farms: The maximum application rate is 3.0 pints of product per acre per application (0.75 lbs 2,4-D ae, 0.36 lb 2,4-DP-p ae, and 0.19 lb dicamba ae per acre per application). For ornamental turfgrass, the maximum number of broadcast applications is limited to 2 per year with a minimum of 30 days between applications. For sod farms, the maximum number of broadcast applications is limited to 2 per year with a minimum of 21 days between applications. The maximum seasonal rate is 6.0 pints of product per acre (1.5 lbs 2,4-D ae, 0.72 lb 2,4-DP-p ae, and 0.38 lb dicamba ae per acre per year)."
 
I think this rule has been around for a while, 5 to 10 years.
I guess spot spray is not regulated.



"Limitations on broadcast treatments for ornamental turfgrass and sod farms: The maximum application rate is 3.0 pints of product per acre per application (0.75 lbs 2,4-D ae, 0.36 lb 2,4-DP-p ae, and 0.19 lb dicamba ae per acre per application). For ornamental turfgrass, the maximum number of broadcast applications is limited to 2 per year with a minimum of 30 days between applications. For sod farms, the maximum number of broadcast applications is limited to 2 per year with a minimum of 21 days between applications. The maximum seasonal rate is 6.0 pints of product per acre (1.5 lbs 2,4-D ae, 0.72 lb 2,4-DP-p ae, and 0.38 lb dicamba ae per acre per year)."
I guess that answers my question. 5 years and I’m good, any longer than that means I should regularly read the label
 
Depends upon the lawn in question. In Twin Cities, MN if well maintained:
  • weekly mow
  • regular irrigation (1" to 1.5" June 20 - Sept 20)
  • fertilized May, July, Oct
  • weed treat twice (~May 15 - Memorial Day, Sept 15 - Sept 30)
spot treatment is all that is required. The turf will be thick and thick turf really is your best defense against weeds. Nowhere for weeds to take hold.

If not maintained, it may require a blanket spray once or twice 1st season + proper overseeding in Sept in order to fill in turf in order to out compete weeds. I sell strong turf, not weed control (but I do weed control in limited fashion). If someone is in need of 3 times per year dousing, I send them elsewhere: NOT INTERESTED.

Having said that, I do mow some lawns where I look like Pigpen from Charlie Brown walking in a cloud of dust. It's up to the customer as to the level of lawn he/she desires - I'm just not interested in dousing properties with chemicals in a losing battle.
 
Hey Guys/Gals,

I have a question regarding blanket applications. Currently our first two applications for the season consist of a fertilizer with Dimension. We spot treat for weeds during both applications. Generally we don't do a blanket application of herbicide. If you would give me some insight on what you're program consists of.

Thank you for your time! -Chris
If you are blanket spraying a lawn multiple times per year (other than year 1), either:
  • you are not applying correctly
  • the lawn is super weak (thin)
  • lawn is large and standon OR skid sprayer is the way to go
Thin, weak lawns will always have weeds. Nothing to contend with weeds.
 
Wow, I do it completely differently. In my program (by the way, I’m located in Springfield, Missouri) I run a six round program. And there as folllowed

Round 1- start late feb early march. Consists of prodiamine, nitrogen & 50lbs/acre in the form of Urea. And sublime(new product) which has a combination of triclopyr, dicamba and mesotrione. According to the sublime label, it can be used to blanket app four times a year.

Round two – I have half the amount of the prodiamine, Nitrogen, I add Pot ash, same rate of sublime, and I add a non ionic surfactant like 90/10.

Now round 3 (about late April- early June) I have the potash, the sublime, the 90/10, but I only go with 25 pounds an acre of nitrogen. And I’ll also add some chelated iron. And also Bandit for grub control (help with keeping the mole activity down in August and September)

Round four is in the summer so I don’t do a blanket application. I will just spot spray and my mixture has Quinn way sublime MSO and sledgehammer. And my spot spray I’m mainly looking for weeds, nuts edge, and I can also use that not to kill Bermuda, but to at least keep it at bay if Bermuda from a neighbors yard is trying to creep into theirs.

Around five – i’ll have potash, the iron, sublime, 90/10, and nitrogen when I start around and the temps are up I’ll have just 25 pounds per acre, but as the temp starts to cool towards the end of the round, I will bump up that nitrogen. Though this does coincide as the same time that we are doing lawn renovations for people, so it is always good for me to keep in contact with my customer to see if they’re planning on putting seed. Now the sublime says I can spray on the same day as seed, but we just don’t want to risk you know then paying all that money and the seed not germinating so anyone that is having a lawn renovation I will run the same mix just without herbicide.

Round six is our winterization round- boost up the nitrogen and this is the round that I’ll run lesco’s three-way, which has 2–4 D.

and this program has been working pretty darn good for me. I finally tweaked it over the past few years to get it where I have it now., Next year, I’m gonna study and think about some wedding agents for the hotter months and maybe a growth regulator for the early spring you know because it’ll keep it from growing tall, but it will grow thick and be more full. So maybe when the drought in the heat comes in summer, the yards won’t be under as much noticeable stress with patches around trees, etc..


Now this is just my opinion, and what has worked for me so not saying that this is how everyone should do their applications. I’m just new to the form and thought I would share what I have learned along the way thank you for your time.
 
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