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Hello,

What mowers are you using for your smaller yards? I will be getting a few retirement accounts next year, and they are from 2,500-3,500 sq ft. The houses are close together as one would imagine, but I want something that will cut the entire yard as efficiently as possible.

Thanks.
 
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what area of the country are and what type of grass?
 
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I am in NJ and have mostly fescue and some Bermuda. I am not looking for 21" mowers but something that will allow my team to work faster and not wear them out. I have seen some companies use walker mowers, but I's like to use something smaller and not pick up the clippings.
 
OK thanks was thinking of 36" myself thanks. Was to sure if someone found anything else that worked better.
Some people liked the 30" mowers for suburban yards
Some newer options for that size fw/sw15scag and Ferris

Also 32" to 48" walk behind units would work

Standers are preferred by some people
 
What mowers are you using for your smaller yards? I will be getting a few retirement accounts next year, and they are from 2,500-3,500 sq ft. The houses are close together as one would imagine, but I want something that will cut the entire yard as efficiently as possible.
Those are really small lawns. 36" dual hydro walk behind would be more than adequate. Ferris FW15 32" single hydro walk behind is another nice option.
 
I am in NJ and have mostly fescue and some Bermuda. I am not looking for 21" mowers but something that will allow my team to work faster and not wear them out. I have seen some companies use walker mowers, but I's like to use something smaller and not pick up the clippings.
Do you have ANY experience with lawn maintenance besides mowing your own yard? What kind of 'team' do you have in place to run these mowers?
 
I use to run 36" hydro walk behinds for lawns like that. Then you have a unit in your fleet that can do detention ponds if needed or other steeply sloping areas. I would not buy anything for one specific type of lawn unless you have a lot of these small lots. That's why i am saying a 36" hydro. If you only have a few look at the 33" cab cadet push mowers.
 
Hello,

What mowers are you using for your smaller yards? I will be getting a few retirement accounts next year, and they are from 2,500-3,500 sq ft. The houses are close together as one would imagine, but I want something that will cut the entire yard as efficiently as possible.

Thanks.
My entire business is based on postage stamp urban properties similar to what you're describing.

I hate to say it, but you have to bag a lot of small sub division properties, especiallywhen it's wet out. Don't go out and drop thousands on a rider/stander or something like a 36" walk behind. If you're running a crew, get a few commercial 21" 25" or 30" trim mowers and call it a day. you're not saving that much time on properties that Size by moving up from a trim mower. Larger mowers in the hands of most employees will often turn a small property into a lake in the spring as well. People will say that mathematically, the bigger wheels distribute the weight equal to a trim mower, which is true, but they still will tear a yard up worse. Anyone that says otherwise (especiallya the dealership) is full of ****, or they don't know what they're talking about.

I run 2 mowers on my trailer. One set up for side discharge, and one for bagging and mulching.

For side discharge, I use the 30" ExMark,but if I had to buy another 30", it would be the Toro because it comes with a 224cc Kohler Comand Pro, instead of the 200cc that ExMark uses. Not sure if you can get one with a Kawasaki FJ180 anymore, but DO NOT GET ONE WITH A KAWASAKI. They're just too underpowered with that engine. A lot of guys like the Ferris fw15 for side discharge, but I like the ability to switch easily to bagging if I have a helper and want to run 2 bagging mowers. The 30" exmark/Toro isn't a great bagger, but it works.

For most bagging and mulching, I use the Ybravo 25". I used Honda HRX Mowers for years and then switched to commetcial Toros with the Kawasaki engine. This last year, I picked up a Ybravo 25", and I prefer it. Power is pretty similar, despite the bigger blade using the same motor. It bags better than the Toro, but the Toro mulches better. I bag more than mulch, so it's a better machine for me.
 
For side discharge, I use the 30" ExMark,but if I had to buy another 30", it would be the Toro because it comes with a 224cc Kohler Comand Pro, instead of the 200cc that ExMark uses. Not sure if you can get one with a Kawasaki FJ180 anymore, but DO NOT GET ONE WITH A KAWASAKI. They're just too underpowered with that engine. A lot of guys like the Ferris fw15 for side discharge, but I like the ability to switch easily to bagging if I have a helper and want to run 2 bagging mowers. The 30" exmark/Toro isn't a great bagger, but it works.
I have an FW15 and can easily swap between bagging & side discharge. I picked the 32" FW15 over the 30" Exmark & Toro commercial models 4 years ago after reading LOTs of reviews on how underpowered the Exmark/Toro units were. No regrets whatsoever- it was the right call. 10.5 HP Honda on the Ferris FW15. One look at the Ferris rear bagger and I thought it might be a problem. A little research said it is. I bought an Accelerator grass catcher instead. Works great! Pretty sure there will be other grass catchers that fit the FW15, but I would stick with aluminum. That grass catcher holds a LOT of grass and can be pretty heavy when grass is moist/wet.

Post #7 in this thread shows the Accelerator grass catcher on my FW15:
 
I have an FW15 and can easily swap between bagging & side discharge. I picked the 32" FW15 over the 30" Exmark & Toro commercial models 4 years ago after reading LOTs of reviews on how underpowered the Exmark/Toro units were. No regrets whatsoever- it was the right call. 10.5 HP Honda on the Ferris FW15. One look at the Ferris rear bagger and I thought it might be a problem. A little research said it is. I bought an Accelerator grass catcher instead. Works great! Pretty sure there will be other grass catchers that fit the FW15, but I would stick with aluminum. That grass catcher holds a LOT of grass and can be pretty heavy when grass is moist/wet.

Post #7 in this thread shows the Accelerator grass catcher on my FW15:
The thing about the FW15 bagging sytem isn't that it's all that more difficult to set it up for bagging, it's more that it's a total pain in the @$$ constantly having to do it because the thing won't fit through a gate or it takes up too much space in your trailer with the bag on. Its just not made for bagging. That's what makes the 30" Exmark/Toro mowers so much more practical. You just leave the bag on and forget about it just like any other trim mower.


With that said, the FW15 is a superior machine in regards to power and its easier to run for smaller employees/users despite weighing 100lbs more. While I'm not a big guy, I'm physically put together pretty well and don't seem to struggle with running the 30" Exmark/Toro all day, but I've had smaller guys that did really struggle with it.

The underpowered thing with the 30" Exmark/Toros was mostly because they originally came with a 179cc Kawasaki. It's why a lot of guys were getting Toro's lighter residential version with the 223cc Briggs and stratton. The 200cc and 224cc Kohler engines they use now are fine for side discharge. The definitely struggle with mulching though.

The perfect trim mower would be a 3 in 1 single blade 25" mower with an aluminum deck, a 224cc kohler Comand pro, and an oversized side discharge chute.
Give me a Toro style 3 speed transmission and Honda style ergonomics...........I'd buy one right now
 
OK thanks was thinking of 36" myself thanks. Was to sure if someone found anything else that worked better.
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its basically a single speed trans in desguise of a multi speed trans. i need pulling power from my machines to deal with the varied terrain and conditions i encounter. septic tank mounds and drainage ditches and retention pond edges, etc perhaps toro has improved the trans by now but the first yr models had trouble going up hill. other wise i can see how its attractive to operators of small lot operations. i have my old toro 32 wb and can fit a exmark 36 in most of my yards and the reliability is hard to pass up
 
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