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Hey y’all,

So I have been working for a Lawn and Shrub care company applying pesticides and fertilizer for a few years.

my question is, what license is needed to apply products, buy products and run a lawn and shrubs service business in Florida?

I understand the 3 years working under a licensed operator. But how do I get written proof of this without alerting my boss?
 
I understand the 3 years working under a licensed operator. But how do I get written proof of this without alerting my boss?
You can't. There is a form that has to be filled out and signed by the certified operator stating that you preformed the work on x jobs. Then that has to be submitted when you apply for the exam. The exam is tough, when I took it there were 200 questions, a lot of which have NOTHING to do with everyday work. You would do good to take a class on taking the test, it will increase your chances of passing. In Florida, they try to fail you on purpose, really a bunch of a..holes at the testing department. Good Luck
 
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You can't. There is a form that has to be filled out and signed by the certified operator stating that you preformed the work on x jobs. Then that has to be submitted when you apply for the exam. The exam is tough, when I took it there were 200 questions, a lot of which have NOTHING to do with everyday work. You would do good to take a class on taking the test, it will increase your chances of passing. In Florida, they try to fail you on purpose, really a bunch of a..holes at the testing department. Good Luck
Thanks for the info…. These questions on the test are they all multiple choice questions?
 
Hey y’all,

So I have been working for a Lawn and Shrub care company applying pesticides and fertilizer for a few years.

my question is, what license is needed to apply products, buy products and run a lawn and shrubs service business in Florida?

I understand the 3 years working under a licensed operator. But how do I get written proof of this without alerting my boss?
could be different state to state, but up here in mass, you need to get a general applicators permit and work under someone with their applicators license, I believe for at least two years, before you can get your specialized applicators license.

the permit test is the same for pretty much all the sub categories of application licenses, while the specific license you test for is a specific test. For example, tree applications vs grass applications. I don’t remember everything about the process or specific names, but thats how it was explained to me. Planning to get mine sooner or later.
 
Wow. In Ohio I just signed up, they sent me some books, I took a few brief tests. Had more time left so took another category unplanned. Got my license in the mail weeks later. No experience.

I think Ohio is much too unregulated.

A license isn't required to get the products I use up here in cool season turf.
 
Here in TN you need to obviously have a certification which is what allows you to spray for any company that’s the “don’t drink the chemicals test” IMO. Then you take the licensing test. About twice as long. Multiple choice but also pictures where you have to tell what disease it is, or what weed it is or both, then blind description of same plus a whole lot of gobment stuff. But that’s in TN who it was for me. Plus all the same calculations including I had a riparian calculation on there go figure.
 
Thanks for the info…. These questions on the test are they all multiple choice questions?
They were when I took it. It was a long time ago, but IIRC the first 50 were looking at pictures and answering a question about them, then the rest were multiple guess. They try to trick you up with the wording of the question, I guess to make sure you can really read and understand. There are questions on reading labels and mixing, but the chemical labels are for products you have never seen or have been taken off the market, to make sure you know how to read a label that you have never seen. I still recommend taking a class on taking the test. I was crazy and took GHP, L&O, & Termite all at the same time, 2 one day, 3rd the next day, passed all 3, but I was in classes and studying for 5 months straight, and you MUST Study, or you are wasting your time even trying. If you have been working for a company putting out fertilizer, you should already have your BMP to put out fertilizer. It really pisses me off that I have an L&O certificate and still had to get the BMP to put out fertilizer. Florida has some crazy regulations.
 
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Here in TN you need to obviously have a certification which is what allows you to spray for any company that’s the “don’t drink the chemicals test” IMO. Then you take the licensing test. About twice as long. Multiple choice but also pictures where you have to tell what disease it is, or what weed it is or both, then blind description of same plus a whole lot of gobment stuff. But that’s in TN who it was for me. Plus all the same calculations including I had a riparian calculation on there go figure.
And that’s why I’ll leave applications to you! Lol
 
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More unregulated than my state of Ky it sounds like

Here all they ask is you at least get a 70% on the test in order to pass
After that then 12 CEUs every year is required to stay licensed
Ohio also requires continuing education.

IMO fed should take most all lawn and pest products off the shelf and closely control access by professionals. Good for our industry. Probably not popular for Americans rights.
 
Florida requires a certain amount of experience working in Florida under a pest control licensee; how much experience you need varies based on your education level. The average person needs 3 years as an ID Card holder under a Florida-licensed pest control company. The test is 200 multiple-choice questions; they cover everything from pest identification to using PPE safely to rules and regulations.

I would start here. This is the official state website, and they can give you all the information you need.
 
Do you have a Fla BEPC Spray tech Card issued by your boss????????? If not, you are applying illegally and should report your boss. Fla BECP PUBLIC DATABASE. Public Database Searches
 
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I could be wrong
But I thought states that required you to work under someone for a length of time before getting your own license, also had an applicators license.
There for your time working would already be documented?
With a 3 year requirement , I find it odd they don’t have the lesser applicators license requirement?
 
I could be wrong
But I thought states that required you to work under someone for a length of time before getting your own license, also had an applicators license.
There for your time working would already be documented?
With a 3 year requirement , I find it odd they don’t have the lesser applicators license requirement?
Florida has different levels of licensure/certification. The pest control business has a "JB" license number, the certified applicator has a "JF" number, and the workers have a Pest Control ID Card (tied to the worker and the company) that uses a "JE" number. Everyone, including certified operators, has a JE number. Fertilization is covered by a different license - you must complete a course on BMPs and take a test, then pay for an individual "LF" license. It can get confusing.

In order to become a certified operator, Fla. Stat. § 482.132 states:

482.132 Qualifications for examination and certification.—
(1) The department may award a pest control operator’s certificate to an individual who has passed the examinations prescribed by the department and who submits to the department proof that she or he is not under the disability of minority and is qualified to be a certified operator with regard to the safety of persons and property, and is otherwise qualified under the provisions of this chapter and the rules made pursuant to this chapter.
(2) Each applicant for examination for a pest control operator’s certificate must possess the minimum qualifications specified in one of the following paragraphs:
(a) Three years’ employment as a service employee of a licensee that performs pest control in the category or categories in which the applicant seeks certification, 1 year of which employment must have been completed in this state during the year immediately preceding application for examination.
(b) A degree with advanced training or a major in entomology, botany, agronomy, or horticulture from a recognized college or university, which training or major included the completion of at least 20 semester hours or 30 quarter hours of college credits in those subjects, plus 1 year’s employment as a service employee of a licensee that performs pest control in the category or categories in which the applicant seeks certification or the successful completion of a 1-year entomology program at a public university in this state which specializes in urban pest management and includes practical pest management experience. If such advanced training or major is in entomology, the applicant is qualified for examination in all categories; but if such advanced training or major is in botany, agronomy, or horticulture, the applicant is qualified for examination only in the category of lawn and ornamental pest control.
(c) A 2-year degree in horticultural technology or the equivalent from a college or university, with advanced training of 20 or more semester hours or 30 or more quarter hours of credit in horticulture, plus 1 year’s employment as a service employee of a licensee that performs pest control only in the category of lawn and ornamental pest control. Such an applicant is qualified for examination only in the category of lawn and ornamental pest control.
(d) A 2-year degree in general pest control technology or the equivalent from a college or university, with advanced training of 20 or more semester hours or 30 or more quarter hours of credit in entomology, plus 1 year of employment as a service employee of a licensee that performs pest control in any category or categories. Such an applicant is qualified for all examinations.
(e) Twenty-four semester hours or 36 quarter hours of courses in entomology, pest control technology, and related subjects, plus 1 year of employment as a service employee of a licensee that performs pest control in the category of general household pest, termite, and fumigation. Such an applicant is qualified only for examination in the categories of general household pest control, termite and other wood-destroying organisms pest control, and fumigation.
(f) Twenty-four semester hours or 36 quarter hours of courses in entomology, pest control technology, agronomy, botany, horticulture, and related subjects, plus 1 year of employment as a service employee of a licensee that performs pest control in the category of lawn and ornamental pest control. Such an applicant is qualified only for examination in the category of lawn and ornamental pest control.
(g) Three years’ full-time employment as a service employee of the United States Department of Defense, who has been certified to perform pest control in the category or categories in which the applicant seeks certification, 1 year of which employment must have been completed in this state during the year immediately preceding application for examination. Additionally, the application for certification must be submitted to the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services within 12 months after the date of termination of employment from the Department of Defense.
(3) In addition, each applicant must have knowledge of practical and scientific facts of pest control and be a graduate of an accredited high school or submit to the department satisfactory evidence of equivalent education.


There is a form you have to submit when you apply, showing that you have the required amount of jobs in the required time frame. This has to be signed by either the licensee (business owner/manager) or by the certified operator in charge (sometimes it's the same person). I guess, to answer the OP's original question, there isn't a way to do it without the company knowing.
 
Is the OP from Florida?
Then he’d already have the “junior” license if things were on the up and up
Sounded like to me he didn’t
Which means he’s got no credit for having held the position for experience to qualify for the senior license and if that’s so
Then the op employee is breaking the law.

That’s kinda what I was eluding to
 
Hey y’all,

So I have been working for a Lawn and Shrub care company applying pesticides and fertilizer for a few years.

my question is, what license is needed to apply products, buy products and run a lawn and shrubs service business in Florida?

I understand the 3 years working under a licensed operator. But how do I get written proof of this without alerting my boss?
You can't apply pesticides under your.bosses lic.
 
could be different state to state, but up here in mass, you need to get a general applicators permit and work under someone with their applicators license, I believe for at least two years, before you can get your specialized applicators license.

the permit test is the same for pretty much all the sub categories of application licenses, while the specific license you test for is a specific test. For example, tree applications vs grass applications. I don’t remember everything about the process or specific names, but thats how it was explained to me. Planning to get mine sooner or later.
The only time you can work on someone's lic. Is when your using restricted pesticides and you have an applicators lic And your boss had the commercial lic
 
You can't apply pesticides under your.bosses lic.
The only time you can work on someone's lic. Is when your using restricted pesticides and you have an applicators lic And your boss had the commercial lic
You know, you really do not know what you are talking about. In Florida you MUST work under someone for 3 years to even take the test.
 
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