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#61 ·
$7,800 for THAT Cheetah? You stole that thing!


Ridin' Green said:
Divorce, death of a husband, or other emergency needs come to mind right away. Plenty of great items sold for those reasons at excellent buyer prices every day.
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Actually, I know what happened now... The husband must have passed away, and the wife must have sold if for what the husband said he paid for it! :LOL:
 
#63 ·
Sounds like a great deal!

I didn't like the 5400's on the cheetah. But I've never been as smooth of an operator as many on her. I used to tear a lot with my cheetahs (I had two - not at the same time). My current V-rides suit me a little better in terms of tearing.
 
#64 · (Edited)
I just got a set of AT101's for my Cheetah to help stop the tearing the Turf Masters do no matter how careful I try to be. I haven't had them installed on my rims yet, and probably won't until next season due to lack of a competent place around here lately to do it. I bought them now to beat the price hike that always comes in the early part of every year, though these had just jumped $8 per tire from only a month ago.
 
Discussion starter · #65 ·
I spent about 15 minutes mowing with the Cheetah. Couple points regarding it vs my Super Z Hyperdrive. Even though the HD is quite a bit heavier, I notice it's much easier to tear the grass turning on the Cheetah. Maybe it's due to the sensitivity of the controls. I plan to adjust them to loosen sensitivity. Should I use the top or bottom hole to adjust? I think it's currently in the middle hole. The seat bottom cushion felt thinner on the Cheetah. Not positive. More time will tell, but it felt like it wasn't a soft when hitting bumps. As far as ride, I haven't cut anything rough yet to really determine how it compares other than the few bumps I hit.
 
Discussion starter · #67 ·
Just for comparison, I jumped on a JD 997 yesterday. It was wet and I didn't mow, just drove around some. The hydraulics on it felt similar to my Hyperdrive as far as smoothness. Still planning to change the damping on my Cheetah to see how it responds.
 
#68 ·
In terms of the ride department, scag came to their senses as many people suggested the cheetah be offered with the suspension seat and now you can just order the cheetah with the suspension seat from the factory. Yes more money, but thats to be expected. I want to say that it might be cheaper than doing it after the fact, but i could be wrong. Suspension seat might help a little more for the ride. I know on the fb scag groups, all cheetah owners say its a good improvement for the ride quality.

Back in 2018 when i got my ferris 3200, i added the suspension seat. At the time, my dealer cut me a deal on one. Fast forward a few years later and now they come from the factory with the suspension seat lol. This mower also uses the 5400's which took me a little time to get use to, but they are definitely stout and touchy at first. They definitely are faster than the hydro system on my XL.
 
#69 ·
rutwad-

Have you moved the ride stiffness lever from where it is in your pictures above? Try the second from the top slot. I find the softest setting allows for too much bouncing around and the second slot, while slightly stiffer, actually provides a better ride.
 
Discussion starter · #70 ·
Ridin' Green said:
rutwad-

Have you moved the ride stiffness lever from where it is in your pictures above? Try the second from the top slot. I find the softest setting allows for too much bouncing around and the second slot, while slightly stiffer, actually provides a better ride.
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It was in the middle when I got it. I moved it to the softest, then one notch below softest. Haven't spent much time on it but still prefer the ride of my Hustler
 
#71 ·
rutwad said:
It was in the middle when I got it. I moved it to the softest, then one notch below softest. Haven't spent much time on it but still prefer the ride of my Hustler
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I've never demoed a New Ferris 3300 ISX with their 4 wheel suspension. But I would like to know if it rides better than my Hyperdrive with flex forks and the Grammer MSG65 with fore/aft and vertical suspension. I think the long wheelbase of the Hustler also helps the ride.
 
#73 ·
Most of the top tier commercial mowers come with the suspension seat that has the clear dial on the front, the padding and colors are different but underneath they are all the same guts, large horizontal springs and the super smooth movement they have is due to double bearings that ride on a plastic ramp, I assumed all these seats are being made by grammer for oems? If not what makes the grammer suspension seat so much better because short of having more up/down travel I can't imagine how they could be any smoother or reactive?
 
#74 ·
Dawson said:
Most of the top tier commercial mowers come with the suspension seat that has the clear dial on the front, the padding and colors are different but underneath they are all the same guts, large horizontal springs and the super smooth movement they have is due to double bearings that ride on a plastic ramp, I assumed all these seats are being made by grammer for oems? If not what makes the grammer suspension seat so much better because short of having more up/down travel I can't imagine how they could be any smoother or reactive?
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The difference is in the fore/aft movement plus vertical movement of the Grammer MSG65. This is the OEM seat on my mower. Hustler has now changed to using a seat made by Milsco which doesn’t have the fore/aft movement, only vertical suspension.
 
#77 ·
Prestigious1 said:
The Ferris with a good Grammer will destroy the Hustler in comfort.
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I will concur with this. I have run both, but my Hyper Drive did not have suspension forks, which do make a difference. I run them on my Deere and really like them. The Ferris ISX3300 is a very comfortable unit. Deere has the same feature on their seats with fore/aft suspension, its called Comfort Glide. I do like that feature. Even with suspension forks on the Hustler I can't see it being more comfortable than the Ferris, but that's my observation only. Comfort for one may not be comfort for another!
 
#78 · (Edited)
rutwad said:
Moving out of state due to work, so he sold the mower for $7500. I was leaning towards a new Turf Tiger, but then ran across this deal.
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You definitely got a GREAT deal on that Cheetah. I've got a 2017 TT2, 297 hours, Tweels, ZGlides, Scag factory OCDC which is over $2500 worth of upgrades. I also have the original rims and tires that are like new. Its for sale at $10500
 
#79 ·
Are the new Ferrises (or is it Ferr-eye) better riding than the older one's? My 2012 3100 rode really nice - like a lazyboy chair in the sun. It was my first Ztr and I liked it for the few accounts I had at the time (37 dfi).

I do remember helping my friend, who had a Cheetah, cut for a few hours at the hoa he serviced. We both hopped off of our machine, and onto the other's, many times (not on the fly of course - I know I'm seen on here by many as super human when it comes to this stuff, so I wanted to clarify that point before others got carried away.... we stopped before switching) and literally ran over the exact same areas many times just to compare. The Cheetah was pretty comparable to the Ferris in terms of ride (although I was pretty green in the industry at the time).

One notable difference was on the bank of a steep ditch at an entrance. The high side of the machine would actually "lift" or raise up a little bit. Not enough for me to soil the seat - but definitely alleviated any constipation issues that were lingering.

I liked my Ferris back in the day. That particular icd deck was decent in maintained dry grass. Not so much in the opposite conditions. Some on here have said they have a tweak to their deck but I haven't heard much about it in a while.
 
#80 ·
My first Ferris was a is3200 in 2019, coming from exmark x series 60s and before that the Dixie chopper classics I ran for about 25 years, It was a huge difference in ride quality and I was also able to get work done quicker because the suspension allows you to move faster over rougher ground without feeling like you're going to beat the machine to pieces, or myself, and I've been very happy with the cut from the ICD decks on that 60 and on the 72 I have now. My new 72 has the forefront suspension which basically just means the front wheel stays mostly flat as it articulates up and down instead of cambering outwards like it does on my 60. I think the new one does ride a little better but I can't say if it's because of the redesign on the front suspension or just because it's a 72-in versus a 60, heavier.

I I couldn't compare it to a 2012 model, I don't know what changes they might have made between 2012 and 2019 when I got my first one.
 
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