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1978 International loadstar 1850

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by mag360, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. mag360

    mag360 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,445

    A good buddy of mine has this truck with a 10ft dump. 275hp dt466 5+2 trans/rear(new 80,000 miles ago dash reads 102,000 but I'm sure its a lot more). Dump is pretty clean, cab and hood are good on the outside. Floor is starting to rust through on the drivers side. Tires are good (almost new), Brakes, suspension are good (airbrakes). Batteries are dead---it has sat for around six months at the yard.

    Anyone have experience with these things? We don't need it, but for the price (favor swap and a few hundred $$$) I'd like to grab it, paint it, and leave it hooked to the dump trailer to save wear and tear on one of the diesel pickups and add to the safety margin towing heavy.
  2. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    Aslong it passes state inspection (CVI) you should be okay. The inspectors don't like holes in the floor so you will have to fix those. I think the biggest problem you will have is wiring gremlins. The only driveablity problem will be the 2spd rear axle if your not used to them you can have problems you might be doing some axle selector repairs :laugh:
  3. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    Just lay a sheet of plywood over the floor and you should be good to go. [​IMG]
  4. mag360

    mag360 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,445

    It's got a lot of hp so I guess if the rear gives trouble we could just run it in low.:cool2:

    Thanks. Also does anyone have a source for simulators for the spoke wheels?
  5. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    You paint spoke wheels east indian chrome aka silver paint :laugh:

    The reason why the inspectors don't like holes in the floor is diesel/gas fumes can get into the cab. Sheet metal and roofing tar works good to patch holes in the floor.

    As for the 2spd you will have to use it because the engine will scream running in low range and high range is too tall for everyday use.

    Its easy to up shift a 2spd but a real biatch to down shift a 2spd without getting the zeeeeecrunch when it drops in.

    To up shift you start out in 1L-1H-2L-2H-3L-3H-4L-4H-5L-5H. To down shift say your driving along in 5th high to drop to 5th low you need to push the button down rev the hell out of it.

    It has been so long that I have driven a truck with a 2spd I have forgot the proper way of downshifting. I prefer not to drive 2spd axle trucks a 8-9-10-15-13-18 spd transmission is easier to drive.

    Here is a 5+2


    Here is a 8LL double over which I would rather drive


    I shift the same way as the guy shifting the 8LL use no clutch and shift by ear and RPM.
  6. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,162

    I would say that would be a fair deal in any condition. You could part the truck out and make an easy 1K off the engine alone min. The good thing about IH trucks is the parts. They have sold more med. trucks over the last 30 years than anyone else probably combined. You could get a better cab from a bone yard and replace the entire unit for cheap (I would assume if the floor is gone there is likely more issues you don't see). I am surprised it has the 5-2 with the 466. That usually is a light duty gas tranny. Again make friends with the local bone yard and get an 8LL (I like that tranny) or a 9 speed and you would have a decent truck that is easy to drive. Considering your getting the truck practically for free, if you threw a couple K at it you would really have something.
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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  8. mag360

    mag360 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,445

    Yep---that's about right. This one actually looks just as nice on the outside. The hood, grill, and doors are newer and the front bumper is painted and pretty nice.
  9. mag360

    mag360 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,445

    I wonder if it started out as a gasser. The engine was new 80,000 miles ago and is the 275hp rated version. Possibly this is a 100,000 mile truck, then, as the odometer indicates.
    Thanks for the tips.
  10. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    The truck very well could have been a gasser somebody has stuck a diesel into. You don't see very many diesel Loadstars. International trucks are pretty easy to change engines etc.

    The only worry is how many miles are on the engine.

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