I just bought some with my new t262. I'm almost done with my last orange stihl mix then I'm switching over.

Most everything I've read on here and everywhere else speaks nothing but praise about it. Thumbs Up

 

Husqvarna XP+ clean burning and hardly any scent. Did I make it in before the Amsoil fanboys?

 

I do like the Idea of not smelling like 2cy. exhaust if I just want to blow off my drive once in a while. :nod:

Stihl 2 cycle oil stinks.

Forgot to say the Red Armor burns my eyes.

Maybe that's how you know it's working.

 

Forgot to say the Red Armor burns my eyes.

 

Echo something can't remember right now. Relatively cheap. Clean burning. What else do I need for trimmers that will at most last 3 seasons.

 

We've got 2 trimmers running 5 hours a day, 5 days a week on average, 32 weeks a year.

 

I'm not an Amsoil fanboy, but started buying their stuff for my new mower. I got some Saber for my trimmer. I run part time mowing 13 lawns. So I don't know if I'll notice any difference.

 

I see that the Amsoil fanboys are really slacking. You couldn't have an oil thread without 20 of them jumping in.

 

Ive heard good things about the Red Armor. I was going to try it out when I recently moved away from the Stihl HP Ultra because I hated the smell but decided to give Amsoil a try first. So far its been great.

 

Can you send a pic or link to the exact Amsoil 2 Cycle oil you're using?

BTW, I've used Amsoil for years in vehicles. The Amsoil I use is changed at 25,000 mile intervals. I have a 2005 Ford Freestyle with 410,000 miles that's never had any oil except Amsoil.

 

For the record, Im not an Amsoil fanboy and I am not running it at 100:1 like they recommend, however it has been clean burning and the smell is not obnoxious. Its also lowered the amount of crap that comes out of the exhaust of my Stihl KM94, that thing spits crud all over from the muffler.

 

I just went to Amsoil site and read data sheet with all specs about this oil. They recommend 1.3 oz of oil per gallon of gas for a 100 : I ratio.

The Echo ratio uses 2.6 oz for a 50 : 1 ratio.

If you're not running the 100 : 1, exactly how are you mixing?

 

Red armour great. Cleans up the ports if you was using crap oil.

 

Maybe the smell of 2 cycle is one of those you either can or can't. I can't smell it. Not good or bad. Now if an engine is smoking whether 2 cycle or not I can smell that.

 

Can’t smell it in the city. We have air quality index readings and smog alerts and air pollution warnings.

The smell of 2cycle is a rural thing.

 

The smell of 2cycle is a rural thing.

Run one in your house for a few minutes and tell me again how it doesn't smell. :hammerhead:

 

I bought 4 of the 1 gallon echo power blend gold to start the season off right after leaf season. Got a tip and pour to keep in the truck with the line marked for my guys to easily see. We are now into gallon #2 and to me I see no difference between it and the 5 gallons of Oregon syn blend I used before this. I guess time will tell.

 

Been running red for about five years and love it !

 

I hope it lives up to the hype. Thumbs Up

 

Red is more expensive. Hold works for me.

 

I meant to say gold works for me.

 

Maybe i am a black sheep.. or squirrel, but i digress.. Been using VP 2 cycle, so far, can't complain.

http://goto.walmart.com/c/404739/56...t.com/ip/VP-Racing-Fuels-2-Cycle-Full-Synthetic-Oil-16-oz-Bottle-2907/101843405

 

Red Armor oil is about 3-4X more pricey than it should be. If you're spending over $20-$25 for a gallon of oil on your 2 stroke hand equipment, you're probably paying too much.

 

I burn super tech oil in my handheld equipment. 8 ounces to 3 gallons of gas it makes it 50:1 or close to it.
Burns clean and cheaper than any oil and my equipment still runs fine.

 

I burn super tech oil in my handheld equipment. 8 ounces to 3 gallons of gas it makes it 50:1 or close to it.
Burns clean and cheaper than any oil and my equipment still runs fine.

If you are referring to the Walmart Super Tech Oil, from every video and all information I've researched on 2 cycle oil comparison, Walmart Super Tech for commercial equipment is probably one of the most inferior quality oils available.

Just because your equipment is running fine now does not mean the inside of the engine will continue to optimize performance long term.

 

The echo power blend ran me $53 a gallon (sales tax included) FWIW and that was the cheapest I could find it.

 

Echo oil is priced to high here in my area i remember for the longest time it cost 1.79 plus tax for a 1 gallon mix and now it is 2.99.

Now i can say there is one good oil available at ace hardware that is clean burning and it more likely to be in stock that is ace low ash two cycle or the syn blend oil.

Here is a easy mix ratio chart for 50:1
2.6 oz = 1 gallon
3.2 oz = 1.25 gallon
4.0 oz = 1.50 gallon
5.2 oz = 2 gallon
6.4 oz = 2.50 gallon
8.0 oz = 3 gallon
12.8 oz = 5 gallon

 

That makes my mix for one gallon $1.07 guess that's pretty good.

 

Yeah that is pretty good i know at my stihl dealer the ultra is $79 per gallon but that oil is not to great plus it puts off a terrible odor.

 

Lots cars. Dense population. 2 cycle oil smell non issue.

 

Any modern cheap API TC oil will protect well enough to keep the engine going strong long after the tool is retired for some other reason. More expensive oils can run cleaner, less smoke, smell nicer, but they’ll all lubricate the engine just fine.

 

Any modern cheap API TC oil will protect well enough to keep the engine going strong long after the tool is retired for some other reason. More expensive oils can run cleaner, less smoke, smell nicer, but they'll all lubricate the engine just fine.

With all due respect is this only your opinion or do you have proven data that backs your statements.

Some engineers who have researched and compared oil's extensively have stated that inferior oils can destroy an engine in 6 hrs., whereas the same engine lasted 1500 hrs. and the internal components remained clean showing very little wear.

 

Red Armor user here! Last year, the bottle's were on sale at one of the local dealers, so I made sure to grab a few extra. In my "stihl" phase of life, I used their oil for yearsss, then tried some VP and eventually switched to Red Armor a few years ago as a few engine porters on the chainsaw forums recommended it. Id like to try some other brands like Shafers, Amsoil and Opti, but they are harder to find locally.

I use Belray H1R oil for my 2 stroke bikes, now that stuff isnt cheap lol.

 

Red Armor user here! Last year, the bottle's were on sale at one of the local dealers, so I made sure to grab a few extra. In my "stihl" phase of life, I used their oil for yearsss, then tried some VP and eventually switched to Red Armor a few years ago as a few engine porters on the chainsaw forums recommended it. Id like to try some other brands like Shafers, Amsoil and Opti, but they are harder to find locally.

I use Belray H1R oil for my 2 stroke bikes, now that stuff isn't cheap lol.

I use Schaeffer's outboard oil in my lawn boy and toro when it is available i can get it locally for $6 per quart It is good oil just smells a bit weird.
Treemonkey aka scott on opeforum recommends Schaeffer's
Mastermindworksaws aka randy uses h1r but it is expensive.

Motul 800 2t is my favorite but it is hard to find locally so i normally run cheap oil instead with out issue.