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2 jobs from Hell

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by paponte, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. paponte

    paponte LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,366

    Well since I saw Greenmosters thread about his wall that eveything that could have gone wrong did, it reminded me of a job we did last season. I really don't post much on here, and since it's not freaking snowing figured I would. First job is just a small patio we did for a good maintenance customer that wanted to use a particular patio block. St00pid me said ok to it. The absolute cheapest cr@p I have ever seen in my life! But he was stuck on it, and boy did it cost him.

    After we picked up this wonder 18"x18" block and got it to the property, we noticed that about almost 1/2 of each pallet was either broken, or defected. So we sorted through them, and sent the guy back with the unusable pieces. Of course they don't have enough to replace it and have to get it for the next day. Next morning go get the block. By the time the driver got back to the yard... guess what?? More were broken. Long story short, base had to be absolute 100% perfect cause there was just no tamping these things once they were down. Will NEVER touch one of these block again... never. :nono:



  2. sheshovel

    sheshovel LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,112

    paponte..those look like those stepping stones..never the same thickness so varied almost makes it impossible to get them level with each othr..cheap and break..corners breaking,cracks right through them..I also swore off doing anything with those friggin things...not worth the hassle for any amnt of $$

    looks like yours turned out ok though
  3. paponte

    paponte LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,366

    Second job was a 3 retaining wall, landing/step expansion -reface, driveway expand paver install, and sod/planting install. This job was bad luck from day one! Seemed like everyday we got to the job, we would set up work for an hour then it would pour on us. Machine snaped a tilt cylinder first day on the job ripping out the driveway, and had to finish by hand... of course in the rain. Retaining wall in the back was almost complete when the machine got stuck in the swamp and crashed into the wall. Bucket ended up catching the rear of the wall since the freaking bucket was in the air on it's way over. Thats ok, we stood and just stared at each other for a good 10 minutes then rebuilt the sucker all over again. Just peachy!

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  4. paponte

    paponte LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,366

    Don't have any completely finished jobs, but this should give you an idea. The front caps arent on yet, and a couple of block have to be moved. We finished grading and topsoiled and sodded everything. Then when we were all done, the guy decides he wants to do a deck in the back too. :cry:

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  5. TriCountyLawn

    TriCountyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,517

    How much geo grid was used in the wall in the back ?
  6. paponte

    paponte LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,366

    We used grid every other course.
  7. Dirty Water

    Dirty Water LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,794

    I imagined the guy playing human chess on that patio.
  8. paponte

    paponte LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,366

    lmao!! That was the joke on the job. One guy found humor at yelling... CHECKMATE!! :p
  9. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,602

    They dont sound like "...jobs from Hell".

    Just sounds like a rookie contractor :eek:

    We all been there.

    Always inspect the materials if a client is supplying. If they are of poor quality - don't do the job!

    And be sure to plan where and how the loader will access the site. 5 yrs ago we did a big job on a very steep hill. In the fall. That was a HUGE learning experience, to say the least.

    All these variables are always starring you right in the eye before you start. You just gotta know how to spot 'em :)
  10. paponte

    paponte LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,366

    Hey, thats awfully nice of ya! As I stated the patio was for a VERY good maintenance customer of mine. Made him happy, and he rightfully compensated me for my time. It wasn't some call up where I would have easily walked away from the job.

    As far as the jobsite access, I did mention that we lost alot of time on the job due to weather issues. There was no problem with access, there were problems with percipitation and soil conditions. To give you and idea on the soil in the area, we had to use 12" of base material ontop of geogrid for the driveway. Also had to sink 2 deep ontop of our base on the rear wall as well to avoid problems.

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