2 or 4WD

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by Mr Distinctive, Jul 2, 2002.

  1. Mr Distinctive

    Mr Distinctive LawnSite Member
    from FL
    Messages: 16

    I am new to the lawn care business and need to buy a new truck AND a family car. I was wondering about combining the two and going for the Chevy Avalanche.

    Two questions:-

    1. Do I really need 4WD for a residential based Lawn Biz? and
    2. What does anybody think of the Chevy Avalanche?

    with thanks

    ADLAWNCUTTERS LawnSite Member
    Messages: 191

    im no expert it depends on what you are going to do. if you just do cutting then you could just do fine by using a larger trailer that will hold all your mowers and tools etc.if you do a little landscaping once in a while just use your open trailer.here in buffalo 4/4 is a must. if their is not that much difference in price get the 4/4. but in florida i don't think you will need it.
  3. Mowingman

    Mowingman LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 4,721

    Generally a 4x4 is more expensive to buy and more expensive to operate and maintain. I can not see why you need one for residential work if you are not plowing. You could better spend the money on a two wheel drive with heavy suspension and a diesel engine. I always get a laugh here when I see these new LCO's driving around in big fancy 4x4 pickups. They never get near a mud road and we have not had a good snow storm in about 8 years.:D :confused:
  4. rkbrown

    rkbrown LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 533

    I have a 2001 Ford F-250 Crew Cab Diesel for the business and also as a family vehicle. We tow a 21' Aljo travel trailer and at times I tow a 16' boat to the lake. Rather than the 4x4, I have limited slip differential. For my applications it works fine. Even on slippery boat ramps, the limited slip works just fine. If I was in snow country, however, a 4x4 would be a must for me.

    I am not brand loyal to anyone. I have had Ford and Chevy (gassers) in the past and actually preferred the Chevy over the Ford out of the ones that I have owned. I drove all 3 full sized diesel pickups. The wife said "You may buy a new truck, but it must be a crew cab". I loved the Dodge with the Cummins, but no true Crew Cab, so it was out. I drove the Duramax, but 2001 was the first production year, and I didn't want to be a beta tester. Also, my wife is only 5' and in the Chevy se sits lower than in the Ford (yes, she does drive it from time to time), so she preferred the Ford. Thats what we wound up with and I love the truck.

    As far as the Chevy Avalanche, I am sorry, but I think it is the butt ugliest thing on the road. And if they want to market this thing as a truck, they should do the conversion to the truck, load the bed to the brim with cow manure, get up to 60 mph then slam on the brakes. We'll see what kind of truck it is then. :)
  5. cat320

    cat320 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 823

    Your right Rob the chevy advalanch is a peice of sh*t and the uglest truck that they have built yet.To bad that chevy is pushing to make all there tucks look like that MAKE s IT EASY TO WANT TO BUY OTHER BRANDS.:angry:
  6. Turf Technologies

    Turf Technologies LawnSite Senior Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 587

    Since you live in Florida as i do 2wd is fine. I have a 2000 GMC 15004.8 2wd .I dont see many 4wd LCO trucks this far south.We dont get much snow here.
  7. Brickman

    Brickman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,249

    When was the last time FL saw enough snow that stayed to need 4 WD?

    For this country you can hardly find 2 WD. As far as the Avalanche it is a BUTT ugly vehicle. The only people that buy them got to be die hard Chev guys. I would think that most people in their right mind would not change to one because they liked it.
  8. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    For me I'am looking for a 4x4 F-350 cab and chassis to replace my F-Superduty which is 2wd and its not cutting the mustard for getting in and out of these places I go. I never did have a 4x4 1 ton trucks before as I never needed it but now I'am getting more small soil delivery jobs out to these lake side cabins that have goat trails for roads getting to them. The people that own these cabins like the tough access roads because its a adventure getting to the summer cabin :rolleyes: . They ALWAYS tell me oh its fine you shouldn't have no problems you should make it with no problems at all Ya right. I always have made it but barely one day I won't make it and walking a mile to two miles to the main road to get some help isn't gonna be fun. A tow truck call out fee isn't cheap and even then they won't come and get ya your stuck because most of the tow trucks here are 2wd.

    I know you are gonna ask why I go to these places and its one answer GOOD MONEY plus sometimes a guy sees some real good eye candy (Good Looking Women) at these cabins. Plus with these cabin people you will always get repeat business they may need more soil deliver'd or some building supplies etc.

    If I didn't live in this rural area and lived in a city where the only offroad my truck seen was backing into a residential yard 2wd drive would be fine. Why have all that extra running gear being pushed around under your truck when you don't need it even if you lived in a area that sees snow 4 wheeldrive just gets you in trouble in the snow.

    A good set of traction tires and a limited slip diff will get you out of the tougher spots in a city but if you live in a rural area where a 4x4 trail is classed as a driveway 4wheel is a must.
  9. Albemarle Lawn

    Albemarle Lawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,544

    And keep the $10K in change.

    The Avalanch is a toy like an ATV. It's sprung too soft and you will fret every scratch.

    You can buy a nice diesel truck about 4 years old for $15k and a nice car for $10K like a 3 year old Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, or TDI diesel Passat or something.

  10. Southern Lawns

    Southern Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 259

    Who needs snow to have a 4X4, We take ours on the beach about everyweek. No 4X4 and you do it the old fashioned way, you tug all your cr@p from a parking space about 1/2 mile from the beach:angry: . Every winter we go skiing and snowmobiling up North. Gotta have 4X4. Spend the extra money, get the 4X4. You have beaches in Fl;). Better resale, it's there if you want it. Otherwise it's kinda like buying a Mustang with a 6 cyl. I wanna be a muscle car but I just aint there yet!:D

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