Has everyone checked out 2005 prices from their suppliers yet??? If so what increases have you seen. I have seen a noticable jump in pipe. Lasco fittings went up 5%. Some companies in the area have not received a answer for their H2B workers yet. One of my suppliers tried to increase everything by 5%. But since he is going to be my main supplier he kept the pricing the same as 04. John Deere does not want to deal with me after I told their head salesman to F-off after he was in my office one day and I took a call from a worker and when I got off of the phone he asked if that was a unhappy customer. I lost it, I told John Deere if "Pat Ferrell" was the best saleperson they had then I don't want to do business with them. I also told them that I was getting Rain Bird 5004pc's for and his best price was two bucks more each. And that was last year, this year their price is 3 bucks more.