I see. Well I would differentially hang onto that 36 if you think your going to run two crews and need it in the next few years. I say this because its way to nice of a mower and you would be taking a money loss on it by selling it used. And for now I would just ramp it into your truck if you have to, that wouldn't be to bad for a few years I wouldn't think anyways. There's a guy around here that does that. If you have yards that close where you and an employee can use two 60's in one neighborhood get two and do the fleet programing with exmark, so you get a little discount. Hope this helps .[/QUOTE] that is defniitly what i am working up to do, but the fleet program i think is 12 points. Lazer 29 hp EFI KAWI are 5 point's each and baggeres are 1 point each(i think) It give you i think a thousand off the sticker price the fleet discount. I looked into it this summer when i had both lazers and was going to trade them in.<that is what i should have done because for two brand new lazers i would be paying only around 6k. They were gonna givem e 7,500 for my xs and 7,500 for my 2009 27hp 60". I should have done it, 6k is nothing for two mowers, especially since i don't finance mowers because i always want something different after a year. Maybe thats cuz i usually buy lightly used stuff. Anyone have a problem starting engines in this weather. I put my xs in the middle of the driveway today after the last clean up(i store equipment in my garage so its sheltered) and left. When i came back there was an inch of snow in it and i couldnt turn the key, the choke and throttle cables were all frozen up and everything was stiff. Its still sitting there now. How the hell am i supposed to start a frozen mower?