21 Inch Commercial Push

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by GreenShoesLC, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. GreenShoesLC

    GreenShoesLC LawnSite Member
    Messages: 37

    Hi All, I'm in need of a good quality 21" push mower.

    I've been in the biz for 3 years, I started my own company this Spring. I currently have a 6.5HP 21" Toro Super Recycler GTS that gets daily use on all 15 of my contracts and performs pretty well. (We bag here in Winnipeg in the spring because of the insane amount of growth)

    I'd like to know your opinions on a couple different 21's.

    I need something that will bag really well, and will mulch decently.

    Being from Winnipeg I know that there are almost always better prices if I drive across the border to Grand Forks or Fargo, so I wouldn't object to picking up a new 21 there.

    I've used Ariens LM21's in the past and found them to work really well with great bagging performance. (I know these aren't commercial)

    What do you think?


    Anders Frederiksen
    Green Shoes Lawn Care
  2. B Gillespie

    B Gillespie LawnSite Member
    Messages: 170

    Honda, Toro, Snapper. Buy commercial, the extra $$ and weight is worth it. All three brands mow well. Snapper bags great, doesn't mulch as well, and is priced about $100 less on average. Honda and Toro are almost on par with bagging and mulch great. Snapper has 6 speeds, Toro has 3, Honda is hydrostatic.
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  3. GreenShoesLC

    GreenShoesLC LawnSite Member
    Messages: 37

    Thanks, the Honda HRC series looks really nice, and the Toro Commercials do too. I've used snapper commercials in the past and the LM21's outbagged it on every property. The snapper probably wasn't in great shape. Previous employer was a bit unorganized!

    The price for the Honda HRC216K3PDA (no self propel) onlne is $749.00

    Can't find a decent price (or even the correct model) at any of the dealers in my area. Is a trip to Grand Forks or Fargo worth it?
  4. B Gillespie

    B Gillespie LawnSite Member
    Messages: 170

    If you're full time, get a self propelled. My HRC push will wear you out on hills or using it all day. It cuts very nice and is significantly quieter than the Toro 2 stroke or Snapper hi vac.
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  5. Heintooga

    Heintooga LawnSite Member
    Messages: 149

    The HRC216K3PDA is 100lbs. Add bag and clippings and you're in for some hard days. I have one too, plus a Snapper commercial and added an Exmark Commercial 21 this week. If you want a bagger that will mulch also you won't find a better or more versatile machine than a Snapper Hi-vac, plus it will side discharge if you ever get in some real thick stuff. Add in that Snappers seldom break but if/when they do parts are easy to find.
  6. cpt87gn

    cpt87gn LawnSite Member
    Messages: 218

    do you want self perpelled or push if push is ok theres a new toro commercial and honda hrc for 599 free shipping no tax on ebay
  7. albhb3

    albhb3 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 502

    stay away from the heavy toro at least the one we have is the 124lbs it becomes a workout by the end of the day
  8. Dnryan

    Dnryan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 55

    just bought the snapper hi-vac with the kawa engine this year and i absolutly love it. Paid about $925 after all is said and done. Tested it out the first week we had it and cut some fescue that was about 6" down to 3.5 just after a rain that night and had no problems. Didnt clog and filled the bag to the top every time. I have used the toros before and i have had many problems trying to accomplish the same thing with them. They always seemed to clog with the wet grass when the bag was only about 1/3 of the way full. Personally i would never get anything else in the 21" besides the hi-vac snapper.
  9. garyo

    garyo LawnSite Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 61

    How does the Snapper mulch?
  10. Heintooga

    Heintooga LawnSite Member
    Messages: 149

    Snappers mulch very well. I have two and added a Honda and eXmark for variety and the Snapper/Kaw combo is tops. Though I don't have enough time with the eXmark to make a good comparison yet it's been turning the clippings to dust.

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