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As such, the margins on mowing suck.
There have been LCO's that sell-off all their mowing accounts and just focus on landscaping and/or spraying....
honestly, it happens that's just how business change and grow
 

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Mr. 35-Dolla Lawns?? A "broke-to-billionaire" entrepreneurial type storyteller that was on here about 10 years back under about 3 different names.
He was called out by several people catching him telling outright lies with his b.s. including photoshopped pictures, plus his wife "ghost writing" some of his posts. [You'll see the "back & forth" that he got onto with some other L.S members.]
His "These are the Days on Our Lawns" threads, (there were a couple of them) were some of his most epic tall tales!
The title of this thread immediately reminded me of him.
i got a guy like that in our town who tells everyone his a millionaire well on paper anyways because of his accounts
 

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Don't forget to tell them--it is too good to be true--and that you are a more reliable company, have better people, better equipment and will do a better job.
Too many times people shop strictly by price.

I spent almost 40 years in the auto repair business and I can't tell you how many times I heard a customer say "the shop down the street will do it for less" and/or "Vato Zone will diagnose my Check Engine light for free."

My response was "well then, that's the place to go."
 

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I told him I can't compete with that the only thing I told him was I can do the same thing he does but I'm not lowering my prices plus im insured so if I damage something its covered I don't know if this guy is
"I'm sorry I can't meet my own quality expectations at that price"

Low baller will prob be done by mid summer than he'll come begging.
 

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Maybe the guy is doing what Lawnsite "pros" claim they do when they say they charge double or more for biweekly in order to convince people to have it cut weekly instead.

Maybe this guy DOESN'T WANT to mow weekly? Maybe he only wants to mow every other week?

I dunno... just trying to imagine other ways to rationalize this.
I think the new guy just failed to proof read his door hangers. $140 for weekly cuts or $100 for biweekly? Just doesn't make sense.
 

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Too many times people shop strictly by price.

I spent almost 40 years in the auto repair business and I can't tell you how many times I heard a customer say "the shop down the street will do it for less" and/or "Vato Zone will diagnose my Check Engine light for free."

My response was "well then, that's the place to go."
my goal is not to be the cheapest guy in town but not the most expensive but regardless do quality work I'm proud of rather or not if anyone besides the customer sees it.
 

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"I'm sorry I can't meet my own quality expectations at that price"

Low baller will prob be done by mid summer than he'll come begging.
see id be interested to keep up with it throughout the year but once the season starts so many companies come and go just as fast as they can then least two decent sized ones sell out and it repeats every year
 

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some people get confused by bi or semi meanings. Bi means 2 so maybe he thought twice weekly. Maybe he is just an idiot and isn't actually meaning to give a better deal.
to be fair I did actually have to explain this to a new customer the other day. i will say that was the first time anyone asked me did biweekly mean they got the yard cut twice a week
 

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If the lawn isn't large and the guy has several other neighbors he could actually be doing it and earning a decent profit. The more people in close proximity the lower rate one can offer up to a point. No drive time and he would benefit from the economy of scale.
That's what I focus on, route density. I'm generally at a $50 min for the neighborhoods I target, higher than many, lower than some but price per yard isn't the end of the story. I divide total revenue for the day by the total hours from when the truck starts in the morning till its parked at the end. Everything included, nothing hidden. On that basis I feel like I do better with more yards on a stop at a slightly lower price than fewer maxed out.
 

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Maybe the guy is doing what Lawnsite "pros" claim they do when they say they charge double or more for biweekly in order to convince people to have it cut weekly instead.

Maybe this guy DOESN'T WANT to mow weekly? Maybe he only wants to mow every other week?

I dunno... just trying to imagine other ways to rationalize this.
I wonder if the flyer was meant to say twice a week for $35 each cut and $50 if a one cut per week? I don’t cut yards for a living and his flyer would not motivate me to start doing so either.

I do enjoy cutting my own yard w/36” toro hydro walk behind, except when the mower hits a hole and makes me jostle the hydro handles and then tossing me from the machine to the ground! Could be driver error 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

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Agree that “biweekly” can mean every other week or twice a week. Maybe the lawn service meant twice a week, but the people reading the flyer saw it as every other week.
I personally tend to stick with the original latin meanings: bi = two, semi = half. Which would stipulate that biweekly means every other week (or every two weeks) and semiweekly would mean twice a week (or two times a week).

That said, I think the better way, given the rapid digression towards ambiguous language these days, would be to simply use one of the following phrases: "weekly", "every two weeks", "twice a week", "every other week", or "two times weekly". I remember reading something from another landscape company where the fella was adamant that you should not use these terms but instead use something like "7-day mowing plan" or "14-day mowing plan" or some other such nonsense, but I don't remember his rationale behind that.

Getting to the point of the OP - if this "new guy" really is offering bi-weekly for $35 per service visit, there isn't anything that can be done about it except replace the "customer" with a higher value "client". This guy is obviously not making it as a "handyman" (and probably for good reason), so I wouldn't expect him to make it in the "lawn care" business either - they are both service businesses after all, and as we all know, there is more to it than just cutting grass. Regardless of his skill as a handyman, I would contemplate that business is failing because he is one of those people that simply doesn't understand what it takes to operate a service business.

With the new "you're not my boss" mentality, (not to mention the side hustle program scammers) my guess is that we should expect to see a lot more of this moving forward.
 

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I looked up his company and it seems like he came from a handyman service to lawn care so I have no idea but the pricing thing got me plus one free gutter cleaning a year seems like his leaving out a lot of money. which maybe its the first year's prices than the next he jumps up 50%. maybe it's like a dish network promotion
could be he saying if you want it NOW you pay more, good things come to those who wait. (Maybe) also this might be the green/green new deal talking for him…you buying carbon credits now but if you wait I’ll produce more air pollution for less money and blow up my mower due to overworking it…
 
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