Wrong again Mr. Talcattaurass. Just discovered today that Fusa Corp. has a 4.8w G4 Omni directional LED that is supposed to be equivalent to a 35w bi-pin. I believe he said something around 380 lumens but not sure. I have some on the way for testing so I'll let you know what I find. Never say never..... even when you are trying to sound like someone with all the answers. By the way, you're welcome.