# 4 man mowing crew per man hour rate?

#### Cam15

##### LawnSite Fanatic
I’m a bit confused guys. A four man mowing crew would be charging \$240 a hour \$60 per man. Am I missing something?

#### Mark Oomkes

##### LawnSite Fanatic
I’m a bit confused guys. A four man mowing crew would be charging \$240 a hour \$60 per man. Am I missing something?
Yes

Explain

#### notoriousSTV

##### LawnSite Member
I do believe 4 x \$60 = \$240

#### JFGLN

##### LawnSite Silver Member
I’m a bit confused guys. A four man mowing crew would be charging \$240 a hour \$60 per man. Am I missing something?
Was he talking just labor cost?

#### TYTILIDIE

##### LawnSite Member
This is coming from the big boys. Figure out what your gross profit margin should be. Average is 40-50%. Our company does 50-60% on maintenance. We calculate at 50%.

So,
Crew Mem \$16
Crew Mem \$16
Crew Mem \$16

\$66/hr +27% Burden (ALL Insurances, taxes) = \$83.82/hr / 4 (or however many people are on the crew) = \$20.95. Multiply that times two for your gross margin you get \$41.91. That is what you charge per hour. Fuel doesn't count as a direct cost because it is not in the bidding process. ONLY what you use directly that is a constant is direct cost.

#### Mark Oomkes

##### LawnSite Fanatic
That’s what the title says....
Actually it says 4 man mowing crew per man hour rate? and then he starts talking about labor burden.

Which is why I was confused.

Rate is what you charge the customer.

Labor burden is actual payroll, taxes and benefits.

#### Cjames808

##### LawnSite Senior Member
I meant find what your guys really cost per hour by doing some mafh with your numbers.

Don’t just add up their pay rates and assume that’s your cost per hour.

ins payroll tax off days and benefits pay etc. all adds up.