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70,000 sq. ft. of Pavers

hoskm01

LawnSite Fanatic
Speaking with a general contractor today who is building a 4 million dollarish house in the Phoenix area, said he was having installed 70,000 square feet of pavers for drives, walks, patios etc... 4 bucks a foot, installed and done.

Anyone tackle a project of this size ever? 280,000 dollars just in pavers.

Guess the volume discount is really in play here. 4 bucks a foot. Didn't get what brand/model of paver he was using, but it had to be pretty simple.

The house is 8000 square feet and the casita is another 1500. Building cost is 4 mil and expected value on completion is 6 mil. Would like to get up there and get some pics while they are at it. Blows the mind...
 

cgland

LawnSite Bronze Member
Location
Reading, PA
The one thing you have to remember, the base prep in AZ is not what it is in the Norther areas. Tamp sand, level, lay pavers. Thats why it's so cheap.

Chris
 

paponte

LawnSite Silver Member
Location
Islandia, N.Y.
Can you say mechanical installation? Must be one damn big house.
 

DVS Hardscaper

LawnSite Fanatic
Location
County Jail
The founder of AOL has something similar at his home in Northern VA.

I think he has about an acre of pavers, at his home with an 8 car garage. My brother in laws company did the soils engineering for the property, they even had a field office set up for multiple years at the property.
 

D Felix

LawnSite Bronze Member
A large estate that I worked on in Carmel, IN about 6 years ago had ~40k feet of pavers (or was it 80k, I can't remember)... Without excavation figured in, the paver company was charging $14/foot.

Of course, this guy was in the process of dropping $15+++ million (probably more like 20-25) into a home renovation, so the driveway was just a small part.
 
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hoskm01

hoskm01

LawnSite Fanatic
The one thing you have to remember, the base prep in AZ is not what it is in the Norther areas. Tamp sand, level, lay pavers. Thats why it's so cheap.

Chris
I hope you meant to put a comma between tamp and sand, because you dont tamp sand... anywhere I thought, not here at least. And even here I wouldn't trust driving on a paver that was set directly on the dirt (on sand of course) after being wet, lets say when it rains every couple years.



What is this mechanical paver install you speak of Paponte?
 

forestfireguy

LawnSite Senior Member
Location
nj
I assume he means the large scale installing machine which lay a row of pavers at a time. I have never used one, but it is impressive to watch. Do these machines need special pavers or do the clamp onto a row of regular pavers. They use them at airports and docks.
 

cgland

LawnSite Bronze Member
Location
Reading, PA
Hosk - I do mean tamp sand, because in most places in AZ your subgrade is sand! So you must compact your subgrade (sand), then add more sand, level and lay pavers. Very few people use aggregate down there. Now you know! and knowing is half the battle!

Chris
 
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hoskm01

hoskm01

LawnSite Fanatic
Hosk - I do mean tamp sand, because in most places in AZ your subgrade is sand! So you must compact your subgrade (sand), then add more sand, level and lay pavers. Very few people use aggregate down there. Now you know! and knowing is half the battle!

Chris

Im not sure what part of AZ you are familiar with, but there are very few areas in Phoenix with a sandy base. In other parts of the state, perhaps, but not too many Ive ever seen, and Ive been here for 24 years. Just wanted to make sure you werent talking about compacting your top layer of sand. And using aggregate here is not out of the question. Over-engineering sometimes maybe, but needed in some situations. Now you know!
 
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