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87 NON ETHANOL vs 93 premium with ethanol!!!!

Discussion in 'Alternative Fuel Forum' started by gulfjoe, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. gulfjoe

    gulfjoe LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Which would you run You your machine 87 non ethanol or 93 premium with ethanol?
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  2. Erik1981

    Erik1981 LawnSite Member
    from MN
    Messages: 179

    No ethanol all the way!
  3. gulfjoe

    gulfjoe LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,638

    That's what I am doing... But it is coming from this country middle of no where gas station that is ran by Middle easterner type folk...
    I am just worried about the quality.
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  4. Oldtimer

    Oldtimer LawnSite Bronze Member
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  5. herler

    herler LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,139

    Let me tell you something about these so-called ethanol free gasoline stations...
    It's not optional, your local gasoline station doesn't pump it's own petrol so they don't have a choice,
    they buy it from a distributor who in turn gets it from a refinery.

    Even if they did pump their own petrol, it still has to be refined.

    By law, at the refinery level the EPA mandates a certain percent of ethanol be introduced per gallon of gasoline.
    It's required, from the manufacturer's level once petroleum arrives at the refinery to become gasoline, ethanol is introduced.
    They have no choice, it's not optional.

    These manufacturers then sells the already ethanol-enriched fuel to a distributor.
    Most, if not all gas stations get their fuel from just such a distributor, in most cases they don't really have a choice either.
    Do you think their concern lies with the actual ethanol content, or the lowest bidder, who do you think gets the order?
    Oh some would pay $10 a gallon if it came right down to it wouldn't they?
    Bet their local supplier knows better.

    I have more bad news...
    Only thing anyone has been buying free is hype and bull.

    Because I'm telling you, unfortunately some of the American public really can be ignorant to the point of aggravation.
    And if I were so aggravated because of folks who can not seem to accept that gasoline will contain a certain percentage of ethanol,
    then by golly I would sell them 'ethanol free fuel,' too!
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2014
  6. gulfjoe

    gulfjoe LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,638

    What gas do you run in your equipment?
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  7. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
    Messages: 8,822

    I just add a little Star tron to 89 octane. I think that is cheaper than buying 93 or non ethanol. You usually have to go out of your way to find a non ethanol gas station
  8. gulfjoe

    gulfjoe LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,638

    I have 2 stations within 5 miles of me... But after reading the above post, am I just paying extra for peace of mind or this stuff really free of ethanol??? How would I really know?
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  9. jd20series

    jd20series LawnSite Member
    Messages: 9

    You can buy test kits to test your gas for ethanol. I did, and I found one that is truly ethanol free. Jim.
  10. gulfjoe

    gulfjoe LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,638

    Just read this. Think I may try it this weekend...

    Pour a small amount of water into a narrow jar (an olive jar works great) and mark the water level with a Sharpie.
    Add the fuel to around a 10:1 fuel:water ratio.
    Shake well, let settle for a few minutes.
    See if the water level has risen above the mark. If it has risen, it has combined with ethanol from the fuel.
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