A couple of questions for you specialists

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by chwsmith13, Apr 9, 2005.

  1. chwsmith13

    chwsmith13 LawnSite Member
    from usa
    Messages: 5

    Hi. I'm 18 and I mow about 12 residential yards and have mowed for 5 years now. The big money is in the small business and commercial markets for small easy money.

    If I were to start mowing commercial property do you have to have a license and pay taxes or anything like that.

    Also, How do you go about getting these small commercial contracts like the banks, doctors office, pharmacy...etc

    Thanks for any info.
  2. LALawnboy

    LALawnboy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 457

    i'm in the same boat. i started mowing with my dad at 12 and have 15 yards right now (including 1 commercial). i don't pay any taxes on it because this isn't my full time job (full time student). i got the commercial because 1 of my customers runs their business from there. i have a few friends who do a lot of mowing and they 1st started getting commercials by talking to people they know who would then pass on the word that "they did a good job" etc. i know the professionals have their ways but that way has worked out for my friends and they're doing well.
  3. volp0005

    volp0005 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 3

    LALawnboy, yes you must be young and have not looked into running a "real business". Just because you are a student doesn't mean you do not have to pay taxes. The government want's their money if you're the lawn boy next door, if you have a job for some big corporation, if you work at mac-d's ,you own your own business, heck if you sell something to your neighbor, etc. etc. etc.; it doesn't matter the government says "show me the money" and there's no good way to avoid it, unless you are crooked and do not want to have a future running you're own business. If the government doesn't collect their taxes who is going to pay for the schools, roads, and "the man" to bust your balls/kahune's/family jewels all day etc. etc. etc.

    You are probably doing one of two things, either you are reporting your company as a loss on your income statement a.ka. tax statement each year which might avoid taxes (I am not a certified accountant/tax professionial/nor law major to fully verify this) or not reporting taxes at all, which is a no no no no for any business unless you like getting screwed. Last time I checked "student" doesn't fall into the NO tax category and you should at least be reporting sales and use tax if you are a business. But hey, maybe Louisiana, home of booby-gras has a different set of laws than the rest of america.

    And for Little Mr. chwsmith13, yes if you are going into business you really need to learn how to market and sell your product. People will not know about you if you do not know how to reach (a.k.a. market to them). People will not buy from you if you do not "sell" them on your service. So to sell to people you need to find them first. Grow some kahune's, pass out some flyers, go door to door and talk to people. Tell them you're the greatest darn lawnboy in the county and maybe they'll believe you. Customer's will not get handed to you because you're the fancy lad lawn boy next door. Good things come to those that have a vision and work towards it.

    Yes, I'm just a scrub in Minnesota, but hey...bobbygedd is god and may we all pray to him tonight to make the grass green tomorow and make our first, second and third million (and to those so fortunate fourth, fifth and sixth million dollars). And YES, the man doe's want his taxes!

    P.S. This is my first post, damn it feels good. Yep, you are not going to find any info in my profile because I was too lazy to fill it out, yes sir, too lazy I said. Hopefully someone will pick up on this dry sarcasm and laugh, if not oh well just another day cuttin grass and doing my thing.

    Peace, good bye, later, adios, and f-it i'm out like a fat kid in dogeball
  4. wally world III

    wally world III LawnSite Member
    Messages: 128

    I.R.S looking for ???? payup
    these 2 idiots.............
    don't pay taxes, who do they think they are ?????? :blob3:
    man i could make a killing reporting ALL... these idiots to I. R. S. :cry:
    payup payup payup payup payup payup
  5. cantoo

    cantoo LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,910

    wally world, do they pay you if you report people to the IRS there?
    The laws must be a little different here. It depends on how much you make a year, maybe they only charge $4 a cut and it doesn't add up to squat.
  6. crzymow

    crzymow LawnSite Senior Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 378

    doesnt matter how much they make, technically they have to report it. I love how people talk about all the lawns they do and say oh yeah should i have insurance, and do i need a liscense and insurance to do commercial accounts. All the commercial accounts i have they want proof of insurance and send me a 1099 at the end of the year, which means the gov. gets one too.
  7. tjgray

    tjgray LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 294

    Neither has probably ever paid taxes and has no idea what they have in store for them.

    Yes to the both of you get insured, licensed, and pay your taxes. Your too young to get yourself in the kind of mess you will eventually find yourselves in if you don't :)
  8. crzymow

    crzymow LawnSite Senior Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 378

    That is one of the problem with this country, nobody is held accountable for things, I cant believe they dont know that dont have to pay taxes on the money they are making. I'm sure they know exactly what they are doing, just goin to use the age thing as an excuse.
  9. LALawnboy

    LALawnboy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 457

    you all will be happy with me, since i've already got the tax thing taken care of (paying them that is). since i am just starting out doing this, do you have any suggestions on prices/type of insurance i should get and will it completely take away from my profits? i know ya'll probably think i'm some lowballer (which i'm not, i've already lost yards to lowballers), but i want to be legit and am willing to take any advice offered.

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