A Disturbing Trend in the Green Industry

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by Smallaxe, Nov 29, 2012.

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  1. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    I've always considered that "Lawnsite", was a professional site in which professionals hang out and talk about excellence in the profession...

    It would be the kind of site that the public at large could also dip into and get some insight as to what would be good or bad, to have happen in the lawn and gardens...

    The trend that we see happening,,, instead of excellence in the industry, we are seeing the dis-honesty that can make you the most money in the industry...

    Does anyone else have a problem with this trend or is it the way America does business now???
  2. RussellB

    RussellB LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not sure where your coming from. I haven't seen any dishonesty in my area. Most guys are doing a good job at a fair price.
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'm refering to Lawnsite conversations amongst the so-called professionals... not what is happening in your area...

    There are examples...

    Is it dis-honest to dump fert on frozen turf, just so you can charge for it??? How about mowing dormant grass in the drought??? How about fertilizing, during a drought???

    Are these the actions of a 'professional' in the green industry??? :)
  4. JB1

    JB1 LawnSite Fanatic
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    NOT DIS-honest, just people that aint got a clue.
  5. fastlane

    fastlane LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 347

    There were, are, and all ways will be people that don't do the right thing. We are more informed now than years ago. ie-LawnSite
  6. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    This has been going on forever here at Lawnsite. From people illegally placing flyers on mailboxes to a certain sponsor encouraging potential client lawn services to round up the estimates to make more money, there are those of us that have been fighting it the whole way.

    Probably the thing that is abused most often would have to be employee hours and 1099ing employees.
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  7. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Its nothing new and its in every profession. Some people really dont know better and some are really scum bags. My business was built on honesty and professionalism. It has paid off greatly over the years.
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  8. CowboysLawnCareDelaware

    CowboysLawnCareDelaware LawnSite Senior Member
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    Messages: 549

    As stated their will always be those people who do it to make the extra money, as well their are those people who have contracts signed and they need to do that work so that they can comfortably put food on the table for their kids.

    Is it illegal to put flyers on the side of a mailbox?(underneath the flag)
    I was told that it was fine, it is only illegal to open someone else's mailbox.

    I do feel that their are way to many arguments over different opinions when trying to answer someone else's questions.

  9. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    I keep running across landscape installs from the so-called "higher end" companies in the area, and they either look like an 8th grader designed it or I've fixed certain aspects of the install due to poor placement or lack of material.

    Funny thing is I used to defend these so-called higher end companies and their pricing until I started fixing the flaws.

    We loose bids all the time being the highest bid. I don't care though as I tell those potential clients that we don't skimp on any part of the installation and the nickle and dime aspect of those details is what drives the price up. Anyone severely lower than me is usually cutting corners and not giving those potential clients a good valued end product.


  10. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    No where on the box, the post or the flag.

    ""No part of a mail receptacle may be used to deliver any matter not bearing postage, including items or matter placed upon, supported by, attached to, hung from, or inserted into a mail receptacle. "

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