A few questions about the Grandstand.

Discussion in 'Toro' started by doubleedge, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. doubleedge

    doubleedge LawnSite Senior Member
    from ND
    Messages: 911

    Do you have any updates about the higher capacity bagger yet? Will there be higher capacity baggers for the smaller Grandstand models, too?

    Is it possible to order a small Grandstand from the factory with anti scalp wheels? Is there a reason why the smaller Grandstands don't already have them?

    On the 36" Grandstand model, are the blades overlapping and timed, or is one in front of the other like on 2 bladed lawn tractors?
  2. The Toro Company

    The Toro Company LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 354

    Doubleedge -

    Higher-capacity baggers will not be available through Toro for the 2010 model year. No additional information regarding future seasons is available at this time.

    No, factory-installed anti-scalp rollers are not available on the small-frame GrandStand models. The primary reasons are ... (1) Our aim is to keep the machines as compact as possible. As a result, there is not sufficient clearance between the cutting decks and the caster tires to allow for anti-scalp rollers. (2) We have not demonstrated a need for anti-scalp rollers on these machines. The wheel base is relatively short, and the cutting decks do not extend significantly beyond the tires, so scalping is not a major concern on these machines.

    The 36" GrandStand utilizes a two-blade cutting deck where the blades are "staggered" (overlapping, but not timed), just like mid-size walk-behind models.

    -The Toro Company
  3. brucec32

    brucec32 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,403

    I wouldn't expect a toro employee to be allowed to point this out, but want the real reason there are no antiscalps? It isn't the wheels fitting, or that they aren't needed. It's that the deck is now too heavy with the engine mounted to the deck. The antiscalps would cause the deck to gouge the turf instead of rolling up over it.

    Personally I think the 36" will be fine without them. The 40", due to the decision to narrow the front casters in the interest of "trim edge", will likely scalp leave noticeable uneven spots when mowing at lower heights on undulating terrain. It's simple geometry. How could it not?
  4. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
    Messages: 4,358

    I would say most 36" and 40" decks on the market don't have anti scalp wheels. The castor wheels are close to the edge of the deck so they will raise the deck out of the way. IMO if you are having scalping issues with a 36/40 don't try mowing with a 72 deck.
  5. lilweeds

    lilweeds LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 595

    Exactly they aren't needed. That being said I'm sure you could fab some up if you want to.

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