A Simplicity that doesn't stripe well????

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Envy Lawn Service, Jun 16, 2010.

  1. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    OK, so a friend of mine came to me wanting advice on getting a new lawn tractor.

    I took him and showed him the lawn tractors I would buy if I were him, because that is what he needs. He went back and bought a Simplicity model below the models I suggested because it fit what he was willing to pay... and he wanted the nice STRIPES.

    I looked the unit over and it is nice... nothing wrong with it I can see.
    Very nice actually for a unit below what I suggested.

    However, the darn thing hardly stripes at all, and I can't find a thing wrong.

    It has the right amount of pitch for a 44" deck.
    The deck is pretty heavy, and it is fully riding on the rear rollers.

    So I assumed I would have to show him some technique.

    I mean I did show him some tricks.
    But he's right... it hardly stripes at all when the blades are on.
    Yet the roller stripes fine if you just drive around.

    The blades sound like they spin plenty fast and everything.
    Actually I was surprised at how high the tip speed sounded...
    And the engine never labored once.

    For once I am stumped... I don't know what is wrong.

    All I can think of related to the blades being on is tip speed and air coming out the deck.

    Is it even possible that the tip speed can be too high for good striping?
    I would not think so...
    Especially not on a deck that rides on rollers on the ground......
  2. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    Nobody has a clue, or theory or anything???

    MS_SURVEYOR LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,002

    Beats me! As you said it's riding on the rear rollers behind the blades. I've never owned a Simplicity, but from all accounts they are the stripe king. It's got to be the grass type. :confused:
  4. jtk47

    jtk47 LawnSite Member
    from MS
    Messages: 17

    What type of grass is it?
  5. dwost

    dwost LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,667


    1) Is he mulching, discharging, bagging?
    2) what blades are on the deck now?
    3) anything on the cut that looks off, meaning are there stragglers, is it level? etc...
    4) Type of grass and how high is he cutting? Also have you verified the height is correct as per the indicator on the rear crank vs. a ruler?
  6. GreenShoesLC

    GreenShoesLC LawnSite Member
    Messages: 37

    Cut height will affect the visibility of stripes, a little higher cut height will leave more grass blade to be bent resulting in more visible stripes
  7. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    1) Side discharging
    2) Stock highlifts
    3) Absolutely immaculate cut
    4) Fescue/Common Bermuda mix... about 3"... cutting height is a whole inch off.
  8. Hoy landscaping

    Hoy landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 836

    cut as high as it goes.
  9. Zivman

    Zivman LawnSite Member
    Messages: 57

    cut it at 3.5"-4"
  10. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    Well, the strange part about it is this...

    You can go back over what you just cut with the blades off and it stripes well as you would expect with the deck weight riding on the roller. Go back over it a 3rd time with the blades back on and it takes away from the effect.

    I'm lost.

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