ok, I'm definitely going to have to read through that carefully, and I will. I arrived at that number because of the sheer number of people in my area offering lawn cutting services at stupid low prices to make a buck here and there. so if I go out trying to get business residentially in some areas at $40-$50/hr I'm not sure I'd see much business, and I'm also not sure I'm ready for the higher end areas of my city in terms of lawn care just yet. I am currently working, sort of, it's a really long and complicated story, but I'm self employed as it is. I'm trying to see if I can manage to get a trailer, I could have one for ~$130/month which might be affordable as it is. The trailer would be kind of key because the house my equipment is stored at is going to be old in june and I live in an apartment with nowhere to store 100sq ft of equipment. If I can't manage a trailer some how then I'll be out of business before I can get anywhere. the trailer I have now is just small and open so I wouldn't be able to keep my stuff in it. I admittedly have a lot to learn about business, and I'm sort of working with someone who knows a few things about business which I hope works out. Edit My truck, insured commercially, such as it is, with my current 0 star driving record (don't ask) is only $175/month, non commercially insured it would cost me $258/month. The larger the vehicle is, the safer it is, thus cheaper insurance....that's how it works here. my car was $520/month with my record, I took it off the road for my truck.....now gas.... that's where those savings are going to go lol.